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I've seen some discussion of Emmy nominations on my flist, and I haven't mentioned it, but I do feel I wanted to say something in regards to The Big Bang Theory.

I think Jim Parsons is a hilarious actor and if he gets tapped for best actor in a comedy, that it will be a worthwhile nomination and if he gets it, a solid win.

However. And this is a big HOWEVER.

As much as I love the fandom, and as entertaining as Sheldon is, I do not think The Big Bang Theory is the best comedy on tv. I'm conflicted as to whether I think it should even be nominated. But if it were to get nominated and win over How I Met Your Mother, I will scream my rage across the internet. How I Met Your Mother has had probably the most hilarious season of its run so far, on top of having brilliantly developed characters, continuity so constant and clever it makes me deliriously happy, and genuinely moving storylines. It is six or seven times the show that TBBT is.

Will I be upset if HIMYM loses to Two and a Half Men? A little disgruntled, but I've never watched 2.5Men so I can't judge. But I have seen the entire second season of TBBT, and it doesn't even hold a burning twig, much less a candle, to HIMYM's season. I love writing Sheldon/Penny fanfic and reading it, but in many ways, the TBBT fandom is what I want the show to be. What I imagine the characters could be if they were written better, developed more, given more heart and more wit and if the actors were simply handed better fucking material. On the other hand, I've barely written anything for HIMYM because, honestly, it already is everything I would wish it to be.

Date: 2009-06-03 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mekosuchinae.livejournal.com
I agree with this post in its entirety! And I'd like to add, as a person who has seen several episodes of this season of Two and a Half Men (and let me stress this was against my will), Two and a Half Men is complete and utter shit. The Big Bang Theory isn't half the show How I Met Your Mother is, and Two and a Half Men isn't half the show The Big Bang Theory is. So!

(Two and a Half Men's persisting success both horrifies and infuriates me, ha ha. IT IS SO HORRIBLE ON SO MANY LEVELS.)

Date: 2009-06-03 07:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
That really saddens me to hear! If I like BBT despite itself, I can't imagine liking something that's even less than half of that.

I always looked at the title and thought, "Hmm... I don't think I'm the audience here. It says so right in the title."

BTW

Date: 2009-06-03 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
"Hello, Christopher. I'm Memlu."

Curse you for having a 2-syllable name, which sounds much cooler with that statement! Also, *giggle*.

Date: 2009-06-03 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldy-dollar.livejournal.com
I have yet to watch TBBT, but I thought I'd throw in a chorus of "yay HIMYM" anyway. It really is one of the most cleverly written and funny shows I've ever watched - AND it has strong character development. It's kind of amazing.

Date: 2009-06-04 12:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
It is, isn't it? It's the first sitcom I've ever read fanfic for! Shortly thereafter I started watching TBBT. Which, I should tell you: if you want to start, I recommend watching the final episode of season 1, then season 2, then going back to watch the rest of season 1. Season 2 improves the show quite a bit, namely because the writers realized that Penny + Sheldon = awesome tv hilarity. Even if you don't ship them, their scenes are by far the most amusing of the whole thing.

And, really, I do like the show. It's a show that I enjoy (and even ship and fanfic for) while recognizing its flaws and gradually watching it grow into more. I'd even encourage you to watch it because I'm curious to see if you would ship the same way I would...

(Sheldon is like The Doctor + Spock + Monk. Penny is like that 8 at the bar that Barney seduced one night only to leave her in tears and trying to key his car the next morning. Trust me, it works.)

Date: 2009-06-04 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gojira007.livejournal.com
I've seen bits and pieces of HIMYM.

I've seen many episodes of 2.5M (awesome acronym, btw).

I can tell you without hesitation HIMYM is far superior. X3

Date: 2009-06-04 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Well, we'll have to hope then. You should get to watching HIMYM; it's good fun.

Date: 2009-06-04 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gojira007.livejournal.com
So I've heard. I'm absolutely dreadful about picking up on shows like that, though, so it might be a while before I successfully pull it off. XP

Date: 2009-06-04 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irrel.livejournal.com
I agree that HIMYM should win for best comedy (I mean... c'mon! Nothing even compares) and since I'm sure Jim Parsons and NPH will get nominated in different categories I won't have to choose between them, yay!

Date: 2009-06-04 12:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I don't know who I'd hope for if it came between the two of them for best actor in a comedy. Probably NPH, because his role calls for more emotional diversity and range, but I do have to hand it to Sheldon for his comic timing and his delivery of near-inhuman bunches of science words.

Date: 2009-06-04 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
I've never watched HIMYM, but I hear you. The shows I want to write (and read) fanfic for (like TBBT) are inevitably the shows that don't quite live up to my hopes and expectations in some way -- so that I feel the need to set the record straight or see it set straight by others. If a show is really well written and characterized and is progressing in a direction that satisfies me, I feel no need to fic it or read fic about it.

Let's hear it for glorious dissatisfaction! But let's not give Emmys to shows that don't deserve it, either.

(Er, sorry for the drive-by comment if you're not into that kind of thing. It's just that after re-reading all there is of "The Earth Moved [numbermumble] Miles In Our Kitchen" last night, I'm stalking your journal in case you wrote any more S/P fanfic I don't know about. :)

Another late reply

Date: 2009-06-11 09:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
You've never seen HIMYM? Get the on the Hulu train this instant. Seriously. How I Met Your Mother is happiness bundled in romance, tied up with friendship silly string and stuck clean through with a syringe of bitter life lessons. I adore it. As you're a writer IRL, I'm sure you'd appreciate it when I say that for this show: continuity wins. I've never seen a sitcom that rewarded long-time viewers in such roundabout and creative ways. And the character development! I could blab for hours.

Also, there's romance, and there's another romance, and there's THAT OTHER ROMANCE, WHICH ISN'T THE MAIN ROMANCE BUT IS, MY WORD, TOTALLY STEALING MY HEART RIGHT NOW. The series also has the odd success of creating one of the most disgustingly chauvinistic and repulsive cads in tv character history, and making him a) my favorite character to watch, and b) someone whose fate I actively care about even while I hope he gets regularly tested. At first I thought, "How can I like Barney, when he is the opposite of everything I respect or believe in for a person? I am failing at my feminist core platform, here!" But then I gave in and just enjoyed it, all of which would never have happened with a less talented actor and a less saavy writing team.

It's just that after re-reading all there is of "The Earth Moved [numbermumble] Miles In Our Kitchen" last night, I'm stalking your journal in case you wrote any more S/P fanfic I don't know about. :)

Thanks, it's okay, and again I appreciate the comment! And if you're looking for more, I'll direct you happily to this. =D Warning, it's darker than The Earth Moved, and is paced oddly as it was mostly written for a challenge request and thus very little planning went into the first half. (I say this, haha, when literally no planning at all went into the first dozen comment ficlets for The Earth Moved) But I think you'll like it! I actually like it best of my fics, even though it's an AU and thus a bit weird. And sometimes the characters aren't nice at all. It's less 'sitcom-y' than some my other stuff.

On that link, if you follow the tag with 'rashaka', you'll also see my submission for Porn Battle VII several months ago. That's all I've written formally for TBBT.

Date: 2009-06-05 04:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
OMG it's up! *runs to see*

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