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timepiececlock ([personal profile] timepiececlock) wrote2003-03-16 02:34 pm

SQUUEEEEEE!!!

Watched Acts 4 & 5 of Hamlet over late morning & lunch.

I love this movie.

This will be on my list as soon as the DVD is released.



I loved the scene over Ophelia's grave. I love the pretty eyes of the guy who plays Fortinbras whose name I can never remember. I loved the acting of the man who played Laertes. I loved Robin Williams as the smarmy & overexcited courtier. I loved this whole thing. What a pretty film.

Also, I really like this play. So, so much better than King Lear.


Also, a quix. Gacked from...er.... someone.

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[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I really like this play. So, so much better than King Lear.

Hurray!

I thought I was the only one!
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you are. I saw KL performed live last weekend (or was it the week before?). I've read both books now. Definitely think Hamlet is better. For one, I didn't like hardly anyone in KL. I'm much more sympathetic to the characters in Hamlet, because there's fewer "evil" characters and more that fall into grey area.

[identity profile] girlwithjournal.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It's all about Macbeth, people.

[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a an argument for Macbeth, but I'm sticking with Hamlet. Can we all agree on Othello not being very good though?

[identity profile] girlwithjournal.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, although it would never be my first choice, I like Othello. Highly dislike Romeo and Juliet, though - it belongs to the "all the problems would be taken care of if all the characters weren't idiots" school of drama. Drives me crazy.

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[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Romeo and Juliet? I hate the w\y the best character dies in act 3..nd your right. The chracters are idiots!

Othello always seemed like a really bad episode of a soap opera for me.

[identity profile] girlwithjournal.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Mercutio all the way, baby!

And yeah, Othello kind of is like a bad soap opera, but it's a fun bad soap opera. I like Iago's mind games.

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[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ah but Iago is sort of my problem with it. Hes just EVIL with no real motivation (I find it diffcult to buy that he does all that out of Jealously. Unless he was Gore Vidal but I digress). He seems to be a villian just for the sheer hell of it!

[identity profile] girlwithjournal.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
I remember when I studied Othello in class, there was a lot of dithering over Iago's "motivation" - I agree with you that it's pretty thin, but again, I think that's half the fun. Unrepentant evil just for the sake of evil? In a fictional world, that can be a real kick. Which is probably part of the reason I tend to enjoy Angelus more than Angel...

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[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
I tend to enjoy Angelus more than Angel...

Nothing to do with the infamous leather pants?

Well, what can I say, I guess I hold Shakespeare to a higher standard than I hold Mutant Enemy (No offense guys..).

[identity profile] girlwithjournal.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing to do with the infamous leather pants?

LOL. Not really, actually. There must be something wrong with me.

I guess I hold Shakespeare to a higher standard than I hold Mutant Enemy (No offense guys..).

Yes, but ME gets far more of my ire...

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[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 10:42 am (UTC)(link)

Well thats fair enough!

[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)

And isn't Cordelia the most annoying character ever?
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, she was very blah. I still can figure out her reason for being so obstinant to Lear's request in the first place. I suggested that maybe she answered taht way because she was being snotty and she was mad at her father for asking her in such a compliment-fishing manner about her love. I would have been annoyed if my dad asked me that way too.

But my teacher assures me that wasn't the case, and the version I saw acted out supported my teacher.

Basically, she was a non-character who was silly.

Also, I spent the entire last act of the play wondering "Where the hell is the King of France?" His armies were invading and his wife and father in law were taken prisoner... and yet he was no where to be found. Not even one scene after he marries Cordelia.

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[identity profile] mrthursday.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 12:46 am (UTC)(link)

Well I was alway read Cordelia as being to honest for her own good, and yes Obstinate. She could have just lied to shut the old guy up (although his initail plan is still so insane it would end badly). Lear had almost certainly decieded which daughter was getting what anyway, so all she has to do is indulge Him! But no shes all "unable to heave my heart" and no "glib and oilly tongue". Foolish mortal!

The King of France was held up by the fact he had a french army (i.e. Useless)! Seriously though, I am not sure how audeince s back in Shakespeares day would have reacted to a play showing the french invading on screen and as the good guys! I think thats why he kept them off stage.

Just another reason why the play is actually really silly! The orignal legend works, becaue, well in legends people do silly things (after all they are just to illustrate a point!). But the play...give Me Hamlet any day!