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timepiececlock ([personal profile] timepiececlock) wrote2002-11-26 06:52 pm

Giles that smart sexy bitch

Buffy talk to kill time till 8pm...

((wow, look at all those T's and L's... that must be some form of alliteration...))

I was just thinking: why do I like Giles so much? Why has he always been one of my favorite characters, above Willow or Xander or Angel?

When I first started watching this show I was cool with the general concept (it being explained conveniently in the title), but sketchy on EVERYthing else. I only knew that Giles was supposed to be the " mature, chaperone, adult figure". I didn't expect to like him, really-- I thought it'd be like other shows, where the adult amongst the teens is tolerated or ridiculed (which he was-- but fondly by the characters, not by the writing).

Well, first off I realized that the teens weren't really teens but acually young adults (I was a bit behind), and slowly while watchin the early s-6 eps and through FX reruns, I also realized how cool Giles' character was. And, how necessary.

He had great deal of the best lines, long before Anya and Spike came around. He had a neat backstory of a troubled past, and he was goofy and bookish, but inside he was smart and ruthless and a wonderfully honorable person. I thought to myself, "You know, if I was a vampire, I'd be smart and turn Giles. He'd make a great vampire." And what do you know? A little while later, I find a book mini-series in the library where in an alternate future Giles is the King of Vampires and has taken over Southern California. Scary.

I like Giles' steadiness-- he seems so sane & stable compared to the rest of them. And even when he's having issues, they're so funny. Like the entire 4th season. One of my all-time favorite Buffy scenes is from 'A New Man', when Giles makes Spike pull over for a minute to get out and roar at Professor Walsh. ::cackling:: I was holding my sides and laughing so hard at that.

Alll that aside, Giles is charming too, and can be very sexy-- in that intelligent, musician way. If he was younger or I was older (and he existed), I'd date him. Heck, even the brief Giles/Joyce fling was funny as hell.

And, totally separate from my Giles-lurve, I like the scenes with Spike and Giles together. I love the English-guy aspect that they share, and I wish we'd get to see more of it in quips and small moments.Their interaction is always amusing, and really funny sometimes, in how Spike should be treated like Giles' peer-- like Angel was-- and yet instead he gets treated like a 20-something Scooby. And yet, sometimes, Spike seems to respect Giles more than the others (Spike just mocks him for what he does as a Watcher, not for being stupid like how he mocks the rest of the SG), which is cool too, and makes a twisted sense. I remember reading a magazine article with an interview w/ both JM and ASH. One of them made a comment that has stuck with me since: "Spike is what Giels used to be, and Giles is what Spike almost became." I love the cheesy father/son thing from Restless and Tabula Rasa, and it almost reflects that observation.

I loved Giles' entire dream from Restless-- he even got the best cheese-guy line: "I wear the cheese; it does not wear me."

Anyway, seeing season six... and having Giles come back... and especially his reaction to Buffy's tale of woe (laughing)-- it made me realize how much he was needed in the Sunnydale group. Well, first it made me jump up and 'whoop'.... and then it made me have heavy character analyzational thoughts.

I'm glad Giles was in Sleeper. I hope he doesn't die, or I'm gonna throw a bitch-fit.

And nobody better spoil me before I see NLM, either. I am confident that he'll live (as I have not seen various LJ friends crying and wailing in their entries), but I'm excited to see what happens. Want more Giles!

Me, too!

[identity profile] sabinablue.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I lurve, lurve, lurve Giles. At least as much, if not more so, than Spike. In fact, I consider Ripper/Giles to be an evolved (I'm not sure that's the right word) version of Spike, only nervous and stuttering.

I have to admit, I'm a little concerned about the prospect of Morphy!Giles, which might be kind of sexy but still disturbs me.
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Re: Me, too!

[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
In fact, I consider Ripper/Giles to be an evolved (I'm not sure that's the right word) version of Spike, only nervous and stuttering.

Yep. Spike and Giles are like felections of in a mirror to the past: Giles used to be Spike, and Spike [as William] almost became Giles, and might yet still, 100 years later.

I have to admit, I'm a little concerned about the prospect of Morphy!Giles, which might be kind of sexy but still disturbs me.

uh... hey! I said I was unspoiled. :(

Re: Me, too!

[identity profile] sabinablue.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Argh, I'm sorry to have startled you! I considered that speculation, not spoilerage. But perhaps I blurred the line. Apologies, and I'll be more careful about checking the time before posting.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, its ok. Its a little thing, and if its only speculation, oh well. You jsut said it like you knew it had/would happen.

A mean Morhpy!Giles would be weird... and possibly sexy.

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[identity profile] ipomoea.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I wouldn't worry about being spoiled. Morphy Giles is just a possibility that came up after "Sleeper" aired, on the chance that if the hooded guy offed Giles Morphy might use his form against the Scoobies. Nothing concrete to it, it's just a theory people have been kicking around.
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Re: Me, too!

[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
ooh... ok. I thought it might have been a spoiler for NLM. thanks.

[identity profile] kimberly-a.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always loved the little interaction between Giles and Spike in "The Gift," after Buffy tells them that if anyone tries to come near Dawn she'll kill them.

SPIKE: Well, not exactly the St. Crispin's Day speech, was it?

GILES: "We few ... we happy few..."

SPIKE: "We band of buggered..."

(In the original play, it's "we band of brothers.")

Heh. But then I'm a big Henry V fan. Still, it was so cool to see the two British guys bonding over Shakespeare that none of the Scoobies would have understood. It was one of those moments when they were peers.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2002-11-26 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved that moment too-- its the sort of thing I wish we could see more of. English male bonding. :giggle: English male geek bonding.