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timepiececlock ([personal profile] timepiececlock) wrote2003-05-03 08:50 pm

::shrug:: Random Celebrity Comment post

To me, Alisson Hannigan 9/10 times looks better in random photos and mag covers than she does on BTVS. Even in that behind-the-scenes pic of her and AD in the Angel crossover, with them standing and smiling/laughing-- she even looked prettier there. I don't think the longer hair is at all as attractive as the chin-length hair of seasons 4 and 5 of BTVS.

But from what I read, not that many people think so.


On a different note, quiz:

You are Dirty Girls!
You are Dirty Girls! Even though you horrified the
fandom, you gave us Faith fighting a Vulcan,
hot Spaith action and Father Tightpants.


Which Drew Goddard Episode Are You?
brought to you by Quizilla


Heh. Vulcan-slaying. A sacred calling. The most important job in the verse. I am... Shaka the Vulcan Slayer. Also known as StVS.


On ANTOHER different note:

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/ijsbb/forum.cgi?cn=19

Really, I thought my fandom was above this sort of thing.

Oh well. At least it's tasteful enough and has recognizable punctuation.

[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You are Never Leave Me!
You are Never Leave Me! Consistently underrated,
you are full of surprisingly entertaining
moments. You like to reference Babe, you have a
crush on Patrick Swayze, and you think
shirtless Spike is a very good thing.


Which Drew Goddard Episode Are You?
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Never Leave Me-- good ep.

By the way, I liked the banner on TWOP. *shrug* Thought it was nice, classy, not in-your-face.

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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't dislike the banner, in and of itself. Like I sad, it's tasteful enough. I just personally disliked the idea that there was one put up at all. I think it's a total waste of 100 dollars, and I looked down on the W/T ones and the B/A ones that were put up earlier in the year. I just think it's kind of immature. But then, not my money going into it.

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[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)

You make a valid point. I didn't contribute, but I know some people who did-- and I say, more power to 'em. Personally, I would rather donate my money to a worthier cause. Even something like the James Marsters Variety ad if it had to be something BtVS-related.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The JM ad I think was more-- I don't know-- it had a point. It was directed at someone specific, thanking that specific person for their hard work. Rather than a random thank you think that will only be seen by other fans, not by the people who are to thank for making B/S happen.

But if it makes someone happy to see it up there, whatver floats your boat. Or- whatever sharpens your stake. ;)

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[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)

Oh, I agree, the JM ad was definitely more poignant-- and I think the people who made the banner knew that. In some ways I think the banner may have been just to spite Ace and Sep. But hey, like you said, not my money, and if people want to go ahead and promote Spuffy, that's cool with me.

Btw-- I agree with you about Alyson Hannigan too. I saw the Wrap Party photos and thought she looked absolutely stunning, especially in comparison to how she's appeared on the show this year. My personal theory? It seems to me that the other actresses are "prettied-down" in order to make SMG stand out. I mean, just look at the pictures of Amber Benson and compare it to how they made her look on the show, and you'll see what I mean.

[identity profile] sweet-ali.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you about Ally Hannigan. She always does look prettier off of the show. Maybe it's because outside she's allowed to smile and have fun and not look all pinched with that perpetual guilty, kicked-puppy expression.

Really, I thought my fandom was above this sort of thing.


You know, i kinda did too. The banner is tasteful and everything, but... For me, i always saw those banners as a last ditch effort to promote a sinking 'ship created by extreme fans like the ducks or kittens. And that is my greatest fear for our fandom once the show ends. I never want to be accused of "quacking".
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And that is my greatest fear for our fandom once the show ends. I never want to be accused of "quacking".

Yeah. And I took semi-great lengths to gloat about the idiocy of it all. And then one of us does it--- it's a hard pill to swallow. But at least it's simple and constistant and reasonably asthetic.

[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)

Can I just say how much I freakin' adore your icon??

Yeah, I never want to be accused of being Duck-like either. Once the show ends, even if Spike does end up going to AtS, I'm letting the ship go-- I don't want to be hanging onto something that isn't ever gonna happen.

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crap. dont' read that.

[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
frap. Crap. You weren't talking about my icon. That's why it's best to read these things on LJ instead of your inbox....

Re: crap. dont' read that.

[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 07:35 am (UTC)(link)

Rashaka, don't worry, I love your musical icon too! :-)

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[identity profile] sweet-ali.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I just say how much I freakin' adore your icon??


Isn't it awesome? Man, wish i could take credit for it, but all of it goes to [livejournal.com profile] sekhmet_ra_ over at [livejournal.com profile] buffy_icons.

Once the show ends, even if Spike does end up going to AtS, I'm letting the ship go-- I don't want to be hanging onto something that isn't ever gonna happen.

Well, what does letting the 'ship go mean? Cause, okay, when the show ends, i will accept that that is the end of the two characters. Together or apart, the show ended and so did their onscreen relationship. But...Well, I'll still be reading S/B fics, you know? And I'm a mod over at an S/B board and it's become a kind of haven that i don't want to give up. I'm just unclear about what is simply still enjoying a show that has ended, as well as a relationship that was portrayed on it, and becoming obsessive and delusional like the ducks.

hm...I'm guessing when i start referring to the characters as RealBuffy and RealSpike, as opposed to the apparent fake ones onscreen, that will be the point and time i would be quacking.

heehee:)
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll stilll be reading fic. Like for Farscape.

that will be the point and time i would be quacking.

If you feel you must take a trip to egypt after the last episode (whatever that may be), I'll make quack quack noises at you to bring you back to your senses.

Unless I'm already on the plane, in which case I expect you to either drage me off kicking and screming or join me and bring food.

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[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 07:34 am (UTC)(link)

hm...I'm guessing when i start referring to the characters as RealBuffy and RealSpike, as opposed to the apparent fake ones onscreen, that will be the point and time i would be quacking.

Heehee!

Oh, I'll still be reading Spuffy fiction and hanging out at the Spuffy boards. I just mean that I'm not going to convince myself that Spike and Buffy will have a happily-ever-after, and I'm not going to send Joss hate letters if he doesn't put them back together after S7. (Of course, there will be hate letters if he had some kind of a Bangel happily-ever-after ending.)

I want to still be able to enjoy the ship and the show, and I know I always will, but I just don't want to become overly obsessive and delusional about the ship's actual probability past season seven, y'know?

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[identity profile] sweet-ali.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
I just mean that I'm not going to convince myself that Spike and Buffy will have a happily-ever-after, and I'm not going to send Joss hate letters if he doesn't put them back together after S7.

Ah, okay :) I will be there with you. I mean, i will enjoy the scenarios after the season finale in fanfic (because i think there will be aplenty this summer), but i will accept the end of the show as being THE END.

Even at the board that i frequent, we've decided we are going to be very careful to make sure it doesn't turn all Duck-y or Kitten-y, that it doesn't become a bitter graveyard of sorts where there is just mourning and longing. We would like it to continue to be as uplifting and positive as it is now, because we feel that is the most respectful tribute to this wonderful story we've been given.

[identity profile] wickedprincess3.livejournal.com 2003-05-03 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
heh. The banner. Well ya know sometimes it's nice to support a ship that has long since sailed (Spike/Dru) I welcome all the S/B shippers to join my in denial land if the finale doesn't go there way.
Way better ways to spend 100$'s though.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I welcome all the S/B shippers to join my in denial land if the finale doesn't go there way.

Well, there's two ways I see this season ending:

Spuffy-postive.

Ship-nuetral.

I don't have any kind of spoiler confrimation for that, nor do I want any, but neither of those options would upset me (though the first is preferable, of course.) Still, the invitation is mighty kind o' ya. ^_^

Way better ways to spend 100$'s though.

Yeah. And it's all contained in two terms:

Gas/flight money.

Merchandise.


That hundred dollars could have bought you a pleather Spike!Coat online. Or an autographed something. Or every single watch & clock put out with a Buffy character one it.

[identity profile] harmonyfb.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
. Well ya know sometimes it's nice to support a ship that has long since sailed (Spike/Dru)

Heh. I, too, have a soft spot for Spike/Dru. Did I ever tell you my fantasy ending for the series? You know, the one where Spike kills them all, turns Dawn, and the two of them peel out of town in search of Dru? ;)
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
As long as Kennedy bites it first--Damn her for escaping righteous death in the winery!-- I'm fine with that plan too. And someone has to be devoured. We've been promised a good devouring all season, and they need to frelling deliver. I'm talkin' principal-eating-whole type devouring. As long as we get that, Spike can kill everyone.

[identity profile] wickedprincess3.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
I heart you. That scenario was just beautiful. ::sighs::

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/automatedalice_/ 2003-05-04 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
what do i love MOST about TWoP right now? those completely horrific high school pictures of JM. eesh.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Do i want to see these? Tell me true.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Um, no. I think I'll keep my delusion that he was always a sexy god-bodied guy.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/automatedalice_/ 2003-05-04 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
depends on how well you deal with simultaneous laughter & pity. ;)

two words. modern. dance. (you do the math on that one. i see your jazz shoes & raise you one leotard.)

[identity profile] sabrinanymph.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Really, I thought my fandom was above this sort of thing.


Yeah, I guess I thought so too. On the bright side, it's simple, tasteful, and not too gushy, mushy.

I have no idea how the show is going to end, and I'm perfectly cool with that. I know there's a good chance JM may end up guest appearancing on Angel and if he does, yippee yay, I'm excited about it and I think the stories will probably be great. Whether or not Buffy and Spike end up together or neutral, I'll always think they would have made a great couple, but really, I'm not going to go around bashing the writers or the show or the character if they should give Spike a new love interest on AtS. Cause, well... that would be wrong to quote Faith as Buffy, which is always such fun to do!
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to go around bashing the writers or the show or the character if they should give Spike a new love interest on AtS.

I wouldn't either. But I also think I represent a pretty impossible sell among audience members. I could believe him havign a fuck-buddy, or a friend he sleeps with, but short of Buffy dying (still any option, right?), I don't think I'd buy into a love thing. But that doesn't mean I won't watch it, or that I'll rant and send the writers hate-mail.

It just means that I'll constantly be writing that kind of badfic where Buffy comes back, kicks the interloper's ass, and takes Spike away with ehr to hunt demons all over the world in a very romantic and nomadic life.

And I will rewrite this same story. Many times. Until it becomes canon in my head. And then no one will want to talk to me, because I'll be that kook around the corner, who everyone smiles depreciating smiles at and then ignores, lost in her own Byronic alterverse of fandom.

[identity profile] sabrinanymph.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
And I will rewrite this same story. Many times. Until it becomes canon in my head. And then no one will want to talk to me, because I'll be that kook around the corner, who everyone smiles depreciating smiles at and then ignores, lost in her own Byronic alterverse of fandom.

So long as you share these stories with me, I think it's a perfectly wonderful place to be.

I'd agree that I'd have a hard time buying love from anyone else. I won't say never, because I think given enough time, I could, but I wouldn't buy it right away. Just as I couldn't really buy Riley fourth season or any 'potential' love interest on Angel first season. But three years down the road I can totally buy Angel's love for Cordelia's and Buffy's for Spike. It's all a matter of timing.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I won't say never, because I think given enough time, I could, but I wouldn't buy it right away.

Precisely. And the problem is even further compounded by the fact that what time takes a normal person (or demon) to get over a love has to be more than doubled or tripled for Spike. Because his entire character is designed as someone for whom forever is not only literal (vampire), but also the true depth of his potential feelings.

It's all a matter of timing.

That's so true. Once I'd been watching the show for a while in season 6, and it was truly clear that season 6 would have a Spike/Buffy arc of some kind, I began to think about the timing of that in comparison to the reruns I was seeing of earlier seasons, and I figured that if the show did end after season 7, then they'd have to end it with Buffy/Spike or Buffy alone. Because this show takes excruciating time in building relationships (except Kennedy. Eww.), where either the build-up or the relationship itself stretches over several seasons.

They simply wouldn't have time to give Buffy a new love, and have it be serious, before the end. Especially not when they had a ready-made partner right there, with lots of build up already in place. It was Spike or nothing.

And they chose Spike, so far.

[identity profile] harmonyfb.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I guess I thought so too. On the bright side, it's simple, tasteful, and not too gushy, mushy.

See, I'd rather have seen a banner Spuffy ad that read: Unhealthy. Dangerous. Transgressive. Unnatural. Hot-as-fucking-hell.

And it'd need the tag that [livejournal.com profile] truecrystal wrote: "Brought to you by the people who realize they're just tv characters, but who are in favor of more good-looking people having sex on television."
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Unhealthy. Dangerous. Transgressive. Unnatural. Hot-as-fucking-hell.

Brought to you by the people who realize they're just tv characters, but who are in favor of more good-looking people having sex on television.


That's at the other end of the good spectrum. You can either be polite and sweet, or funny, snarky, and naughty.

I would have preferred that too, because at least that one would have given me a giggle.

[identity profile] sabrinanymph.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, that just ammused me to no end! It's your fault I'm going to be wandering about the local public library trying to check out books to well meaning patrons and snickering all day long. That would have been a great banner as well.

As Rashaka just said above me, you can have one end or the other. The banner they had was fairly tasteful, this one would have been just hilarious and snarky, and definately in Spike spirit.

[identity profile] sabrinanymph.livejournal.com 2003-05-05 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! It's one of my favourite Spuffy ones I've made and also speaks completely to my view of how Spuffy will (read that as should) turn out. :)

[identity profile] buffyx.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 11:37 am (UTC)(link)

Unhealthy. Dangerous. Transgressive. Unnatural. Hot-as-fucking-hell.

Brought to you by the people who realize they're just tv characters, but who are in favor of more good-looking people having sex on television.


LMAO!! Now I might even contribute to something like that, that's fucking hilarious!!!