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timepiececlockIsn't it funny how that one line in the Spike/Angel fight about Buffy weirdly coincides with this icon, which happened to be made by someone else who was reading this funny website that I can't remember? I guess they really do read the web stuff... ::X Files theme plays in background::
1. It's interesting how all the comments about worthiness-for-Buffy during the final S/A fight were comments that Angel used to hurt Spike; Spike's comments to hurt Angel were all about the soul and worthiness for redemption. The paralelling of Buffy and Drusilla was canonically done, and very obviously from Spike's sympathetic perspective. Which is interesting, because that sort of (intentionally or not) lowers Buffy's relationship with Angel to being akin to Drusilla--- a woman Angel used but Spike truly loved. I don't think Angel used Buffy... but the comparison done very much in Spike's favor. to show his frustrations of always losing to Angel... but so that you would feel for Spike, not Angel. In the flashbacks. And Angel's words leading up to the showdown... they made it seem a matter of pride for Angel, that he'd win because he'd been told he'd win, not out of deservedness. More than once Spike's "acts of a champion" were mentioned by different characters, but there were not really and SPECIFIC acts mentioned about Angel's resume. Just the vague restating of the fact that "Angel is worthy." We the audience already know what Angel has done... but then we ALSO already know what Spike has done. Yet Spike's act is mentioned more in the conversation, even if only by him. Phrase like "saved the world a couple of times" is a lot less powerful than "I burned to death and died closing the hellmouth" [paraphrasing from memory].
Even when Angel said that Bufy never loved Spike as much because he's not Angel... that was about diminishing Spike,'s confidence, and not about Angel proclaiming true and lasting love for Buffy. If anything, he was using his so called "true love", even though it is obviously the past for him, as a weapon. The way you use the topic of ex-girlfriends in conversation, not the way you use Lost Love of Your Life (which you'd think would be a touchy issue to bring up in that context, the way Spike seemed touchy about it, and obviously reacted a lot more strongly to mention of Buffy than Angel did.)
2. I loved the flashbacks. I loved the hand-burning, the use of the word "deviant," the pretty nightgown thing Dru was wearing in the final one. I loved the car-phone conversation. I loved every bit of dialogue in this episode.
1. It's interesting how all the comments about worthiness-for-Buffy during the final S/A fight were comments that Angel used to hurt Spike; Spike's comments to hurt Angel were all about the soul and worthiness for redemption. The paralelling of Buffy and Drusilla was canonically done, and very obviously from Spike's sympathetic perspective. Which is interesting, because that sort of (intentionally or not) lowers Buffy's relationship with Angel to being akin to Drusilla--- a woman Angel used but Spike truly loved. I don't think Angel used Buffy... but the comparison done very much in Spike's favor. to show his frustrations of always losing to Angel... but so that you would feel for Spike, not Angel. In the flashbacks. And Angel's words leading up to the showdown... they made it seem a matter of pride for Angel, that he'd win because he'd been told he'd win, not out of deservedness. More than once Spike's "acts of a champion" were mentioned by different characters, but there were not really and SPECIFIC acts mentioned about Angel's resume. Just the vague restating of the fact that "Angel is worthy." We the audience already know what Angel has done... but then we ALSO already know what Spike has done. Yet Spike's act is mentioned more in the conversation, even if only by him. Phrase like "saved the world a couple of times" is a lot less powerful than "I burned to death and died closing the hellmouth" [paraphrasing from memory].
Even when Angel said that Bufy never loved Spike as much because he's not Angel... that was about diminishing Spike,'s confidence, and not about Angel proclaiming true and lasting love for Buffy. If anything, he was using his so called "true love", even though it is obviously the past for him, as a weapon. The way you use the topic of ex-girlfriends in conversation, not the way you use Lost Love of Your Life (which you'd think would be a touchy issue to bring up in that context, the way Spike seemed touchy about it, and obviously reacted a lot more strongly to mention of Buffy than Angel did.)
2. I loved the flashbacks. I loved the hand-burning, the use of the word "deviant," the pretty nightgown thing Dru was wearing in the final one. I loved the car-phone conversation. I loved every bit of dialogue in this episode.
