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I got a review for my fic Rain saying "Ahh, *hearts in eyes* so fluffy, so awesome!"

::bangs head against wall::


It's not fluffy! The closest any part of it comes to fluff is some sappiness when Charater A realizes he's in love with Character B so much that he is able to forgive Character B for totally using him and abusing his trust. It wasn't fluffy. It was ANGSTY and SOMEWHAT SENTIMENTAL.

Every time someone tells me an agst-ridden fic of mine is "fluffy" when the reviewer and I clearly have different ideas of what "fluff" is, it makes me realize once again that, clearly, NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE DIED IN THIS FIC.

I don't know why this bugs me so much, but it does. I write fluff quite often. But when I'm writing something angsty, I don't want someone to say "so fluffy". If it's reallly oh so fluffy then clearly I totally FAIL at any sort of dramatic tension. Basically the review is telling me "Your idea of angst or drama is giving me warm and fuzzy feelings." I don't want to give the reader warm and fuzzy feelings. I don't want it to be cute.

When I write cute, I want the reader to see it as cute. When I write dramatic, I want the reader to see it as dramatic.

If what I think is drama they think is cute, clearly something's wrong here. And thinking it might be me who's confused is really, really depressing.


Clearly, not enough people died in this fic.

Date: 2006-05-25 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
It makes me feel better to hear that. I was reading it and thinking "Dude, girl-person, did you totally miss my paragraph where she abused his trust as the means to an end? Did ff.net delete that paragraph or something?!"


Maybe she was responding to the whole "we're fated to be together" thing--as well as the fact that they kiss at the end? She could be selectively reading.

Maybe. The ficlet does have a significant sap & sentimentality quotient. Maybe she meant sappy and not fluffy? Because to me fluff is very distinctly absent of angst. Fluff is almost always sappy but sentimentalism or sappyness is certainly not always fluffy. When I think of fluff I think funny, cute, adorable, makes you want to smell the roses or hug a puppy or something.

Date: 2006-05-25 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckingham.livejournal.com
No, I think you made it pretty clear that this relationship was all doomed with its dysfunction... wait, has dysfunction become such a norm in fandom that one can just shrug it off and pay attention solely to the "sweet" parts? I worry for the state of the masses. Hopefully what they think of fic doesn't leak over into reality.

When I think of fluff I think funny, cute, adorable, makes you want to smell the roses or hug a puppy or something.
I don't think I've ever written fluff in my life. Stating that sounds surprisingly like a challenge to myself. Oh shit.

Date: 2006-05-25 10:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
wait, has dysfunction become such a norm in fandom that one can just shrug it off and pay attention solely to the "sweet" parts? I worry for the state of the masses.

Sadly, I've seen that before on ff.net a lot. You write a fucked up badfic where someone's abusing someone else in the relationship and the reviewers are like "Aww, it's so romantic!" and I just want to punch them in the head. Metaphorically.

I bet you could write fluff if you tried. Most of my humorous stuff is fluffy Culture Clash is, like, the fluffiest thing this side of my FF.net page. I even had a drabble that was entirely in poetic verse. ...Well, fluffy with a side of satire.

Date: 2006-05-25 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckingham.livejournal.com
You write a fucked up badfic where someone's abusing someone else in the relationship and the reviewers are like "Aww, it's so romantic!" and I just want to punch them in the head.
This worries me. Maybe I shouldn't write that torture!fic I've been planning. I don't want to feel the urge to throw up if someone comments like that. Then again, the desire to kill my readers could get me into the proper mindset to write this guy's character, so maybe their skewed views of reality will actually benefit someone. ;D

I bet you could write fluff if you tried.
Oh, I'm sure I could. I just wouldn't be happy doing it. I'm afraid it might come out awkward and more pseudo-fluffy than anything. I see enough cute in my everyday life that what I want when I read and write is a little morbidity.

Date: 2006-05-25 10:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Wrie your torturefic. The keyword in my reply was "badfic". Sometimes those stories I was talking about don't even recognize taht they're writing an abusive relationship and the authors themselves think its romantic. From what I remember of your Z/K sentences, if you write a torturefic and you treat it with appropriate seriousness, I'm sure no one will confuse it with fluff.

Date: 2006-05-25 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckingham.livejournal.com
I really can't not write it at this point, as it's managed to latch onto my mind completely, but I do think I should warn everyone from the get go in the author's notes that this is not a romance and if you ever see someone in even a slightly similar situation then you should get them help. Not that anyone will mind me, but it'll make me feel better about putting it out there.

Thank you for your faith in me that I would be appropriate about it. XD

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