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At first the full disclosure of the HP plaigarism wank was this kind of weird "Someone Else's Fandom" thing (like an SEP field, Douglas Adams tm), because although was into HP fandom for a while I had never read the fic trilogy in question nor interacted with any of the perps.

But new stuff has come out, and given that I actually really liked "A Surfeit Of Curses", now I'm feeling kind of dirty.


EDIT: My brain, it hath broke at last.

Date: 2006-08-11 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
Whoa. She stole from "A Little Princess"? One of my all-time favorite stories EVER? The one I've read the book for and have seen every movie incarnation of? I feel as though I've been personally violated here.

This is just nuts. The whole thing. I can't BELIEVE CC still has a book-deal after all of this proven plagarism.

Date: 2006-08-11 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
It gets worse, doubly.

Well, this particular fic was done by Heidi, a different fic author who was a staunch defender of CC from the beginning, totally dismissing the plaigarism claims. And now we can see why she was so adamant that CC had done nothing plaigaristic.

Date: 2006-08-11 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
From The West Wing, too?!?!?! Oh Jesus Lord.

Like I said to somebody else - it might've been [livejournal.com profile] thepiratequeen - I've used lines - famous or not - from time to time in my fics. Most of the time, it's throwaway stuff I thought was amusing. Or something more recognizable, i.e. "no power in the 'Verse can stop [him]." I'm not dumb enough to believe people won't recognize that's from Firefly, and I certainly never claimed differently when people called me on it.

You know, this kind of puts that really WEIRD request I got from an author months ago, who asked me if she could use a line out of one of my fics, because it inspired her for a story of her own. I thought it was wacky, it was just words I don't have legal claim over, if she wants to string them together in the same way, makes no difference to me. I wasn't gonna scream PLAGARISM! Now, I did do that when some bitch lifted one of my older Buffy, The Vampire Slayer fics almost scene for scene.

Date: 2006-08-11 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
"puts" = "explains".

Date: 2006-08-11 06:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I've gotten that weird request before-- permission to use a line from my fic. I said no because I do feel that protectiveness over my wording. Also, I was really wary of opening a can of worms.

I've done parody drabbles using dialogue from Buffy and rewriting of a popular poem, but both were very obvious parodies (the poem was "Casey at the Bat", for cripe's sake) and both were clearly cited.

This stuff is beyond the pale.

Date: 2006-08-11 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
I've gotten that weird request before-- permission to use a line from my fic. I said no because I do feel that protectiveness over my wording. Also, I was really wary of opening a can of worms.

The difference between the line your person requested and mine was probably much more significant. A line that made a real statement or something. The one she requested was from my first X-Men movie fic, "I'm Not Like Everybody Else":

"We all have our parts to play," [John] replied. Once more, he turned and headed away from them. Soon, he vanished completely into the massive crowd.

Bobby rested his hands on Rogue's shoulders. "Well ... " he said after a minute then let out a long breath. "Guess we've really lost him."

Rogue shook her head then craned her neck to look up at him. "We never really had him, Bobby," she solemnly replied.


The underlined stuff being what she was inquiring about. Sure, the words made a statement in my own fic, but out of the context of the story .... ::shrug:: They're just words and I don't care if any uses a line like that. If it's something more powerful I managed to piece together, I might be inclined to say "no".

I had somebody want to set a story in the AU-Verse [livejournal.com profile] varyar and I created with our Buffy/Lord of the Rings books crossover stories. Basically use the canon we created to build on. That, though, he and I declined on, even if neither one of us have claim over BTVS or LOTR. We spent several weeks creating those circumstances and events for both sets of characters.

Date: 2006-08-11 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saxon-dogs.livejournal.com
I read this expose a couple of days ago, and man. It was like watching the idols of my fangirl childhood tearing themselves apart with their teeth. Argh. Why do people do this?!

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