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Edit: I should probably clarify that the fact that it might have an affect on my ship really doesn't matter to me, as my ship would take a good 5 seasons to realistically be canon, and this show is only ever going to have 3. And all that really really doesn't factor into my actual fandom activities with regards to ship. I could read good news or bad news and it's all moot.

I'm thinking I should just read it because I've been spoiled for a few basic things already. But... I'm concerned about detailed plot events. I don't want the whole episode to be ruined for me. But at the same time, I doubt it's THAT detailed, being that it's only an article.

::sigh:: It's hard to be spoiler-free when you want to read fanfic. Stupid negligent fanficcers with their stupid unlabelled spoilery fic summaries. And the REALLY bastardly ones who put spoilers in their fics and then don't tell you, but after five or ten fics you start to clue in to the reality of the spoilage you've been given against your will.

At this point, I fear most of the dammage is done.

On the other hand... I hate being spoiled! I want surprises!

But I also want to get the problem over with so that I don't have to get annoyed about it anymore.

I've already totally given up almost all Fruits Basket fanfic on ff.net for TWO YEARS because I didn't want to be spoiled for that series. I haven't even BROWSED the Furuba section of ff.net in all that time. How loyal do I need to be to EVERY show I watch, when it comes to avoiding spoilers?

... but I *like* surprises, you know?

Okay, lets look at the facts about me spoiling myself for A:TLA.

Reasons Against
-I'm a long time anti-spoiler campaigner
-I like to go into something with as little foreknowledge of major plot/character events as possible
-Being spoiled for the "big surprise" sucks all my enjoyment out of it.

Reasons For
-I'm already half-spoiled, including a major suprise casting spoiler that I would rather not have known
-It really won't affect my fanfic much, especially considering that I'm writing all AUs at this point
-It's clearly impossible to be spoiler-free in this fandom because they're all a bunch of babies who can't help gushing out the newest spoilers in their friggin' fic summaries and all over the major LJ comm
-They *never* cut for mood spoilers, and often that's enough to infer something and get spoiled for big stuff
-I'm grumpy and impatient

Date: 2006-08-19 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
Myself, I run hot and cold with spoilering. Some times, I want to know what's upcoming in a series. Some times, I don't. Depends on how much I want to be surprised or how much I don't care at the moment in ruining the surprise. If you don't think it's going to affect anything, why not read it?

Date: 2006-08-19 07:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Myself, I run hot and cold with spoilering. Some times, I want to know what's upcoming in a series. Some times, I don't.

I don't "want" to know what's coming up, though. I just want to make my annoyance over the whole issue go away. And it's not even that big of a deal-- but when I'm annoyed I fixate on issues like this, and then can't make up my mind. I'm terribly indecisive.

If you don't think it's going to affect anything, why not read it?

Because I'm afraid there might be some really cool thing that by pure luck I haven't been spoiled for yet, and spoiling myself will ruin it for me.

Date: 2006-08-19 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
In that case, I'd avoid the spoilers and let the chips fall where they may. I learned in the ATLAB fandom real quick they have absolutely no courtesy for other fans. Maybe some of us who haven't had the chance to see the episode don't want to know "OMG Katara/Zuko this that and the other!".

Date: 2006-08-19 08:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I learned in the ATLAB fandom real quick they have absolutely no courtesy for other fans.

That's the part I really hate about being such an active member of the fandom, and a mod. Because I'm active, if there's an uncut spoiler I usually see it before it gets rightfully deleted-- or I'm the one who has to delete/edit it. I like being a mod but I hate having to babysit and thus risk spoiling myself. It's the principle of the thing, you know? And most of the Avatar fans get that, but just enough of them don't, or they don't get it as clearly as they should, and that bit ruins the whole apple. I've managed to put together a friends list of people that always, always, cut. That, barring a few coding mistakes that are usually fixed within two minutes of the post being made, do not spoil me accidentally except maybe once a year. The only flaw is Avatar fandom. And given that, for me, Avatar fandom includes The Pit of Voles, I'm pretty much screwed.


And it's not like the show is so terribly brilliant that I'm going to be bowled over by the "omg!ness" of it, anyway, so what surprises there can be I want to actually BE surprises.

On the other hand, I do already feel mostly spoiled. ... But what if I'm *not* mostly spoiled, and I only *think* I'm mostly spoiled? What do I do then?


...See? I'm a Wembley. I waffle and can't make up my mind about anything. I could go on like this for pages.

kinda OT, but:

Date: 2006-08-19 08:07 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I found a well-written, non-spoilery future AU Zuko/Katara fic that has long chapters and well-done characterization and actual, believable angst. It's probably a blue moon or something, because a wel-written Z/K fic with long chapters almost never, ever happens.

It's only three chapters so far, but grab it while it's hot, my friend.

Date: 2006-08-19 07:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I wish there were no spoilers ever. So no one would ever have the chance to spoil me and I would never have to decide whether to try and remain spoiler-free or just spoil myself to stop the problem of other people spoiling me.

It just... wouldn't be an issue. That'd be nice.

Date: 2006-08-19 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
That's why fan-life was easier before the Internet. I never knew you could find out what they'd planned for a show - or so much of it - until the Internet. It certainly changed the way I regard my current series'.

Date: 2006-08-19 07:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I'm just glad I wasn't spoiled for either of the two DW finales. And I wasn't spoiled for Veronica Mars (though the speculation was almost as bad as being spoiled for that show), or for Life On Mars, or for most tv shows I'm watching. My flist is pretty good about the tv spoilers, you know? But anime fandoms seem to be the achilles heel in my anti-spoiler lifestyle. I just keep finding out stuff I don't want to know, and it makes me want to just spoil myself to get it over with. ... there's some kind of metaphor about either shooting yourself in the foot or self-anesthesizing in there, but I can't quite find the right note for it.

Date: 2006-08-19 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easytodistract.livejournal.com
>>>But at the same time, I doubt it's THAT detailed, being that it's only an article.

It's very detailed. The reviewer even describes the fight scenes in detail.

I'm still very divided on whether or not it's actually a proper review because (in my opinion) it gives way too many spoilers.

Plus, it's still about a month away from the showing. I always thought that reviews don't come out that early.

Date: 2006-08-19 10:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
It's very detailed. The reviewer even describes the fight scenes in detail.

In that case, I will stay away. But you're right to be suspicious, too-- it is early for such a detailed release.

Date: 2006-08-19 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easytodistract.livejournal.com
I wouldn't be surprised if the article is taken down or heavily edited.

In any case, the damage has been done.

I actually don't like to be spoiled but I make an exception for AtLA since Friday nights (Sat mornings over here) is usually the only time I could chat with other AtLA fans.

Date: 2006-08-20 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakia.livejournal.com
Dude, I think they're fake. Seriously, they give away too much. With too much descriptions. Too accurate. Human memory doesn't remember that much, and this has one too many details in order to pass my test of whether it's real or not.

Course, come Sept. 15 I may have to eat my own words, but still.

Date: 2006-08-20 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demonasadiablo.livejournal.com
I have to slightly disagree with that. After one showing of an Inuyasha movie, I was able to describe the movie and quotes. Or it could be that the author of the article has a thing for keeping details of scenes like how people keep quotes after a movie? Though I agree with you with the human memory. It might be they kept thinking over and over about the two episodes after seeing it so repetition commited the arc into their long-term memory. Still, there are parts of that article that seemed off. Especially since the writers have a good rep of pacing things.

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