I haven't started on The Window, but I read the end of DBH.
*cough* Which reminds me...
I forgive you for introducing me to the Kakasaku pairing and Narutodom in general, and I formally apologize for all the death threats I may/may not have sent in your direction after things like DBH Chap. 17. I didn't really mean it. What I really meant to say was
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. FINALLY. THANK GOD FOR CATHARSIS. EVEN CHAPTER 18 HAD ME READY TO EXPLODE. BUT THIS...THIS IS AN ENDING I CAN LIVE WITH. REVEL IN, EVEN.
*sighs happily*
my author alerts (yay for author alerts) tell me I also have a great deal of catching up to do on your stuff, too. is there another chapter of Lucid, yet?
I was *so* happy about DBH, too. I was worried it'd end with a bad experience for all, like a sad bitter learning thing. But then Sakura's perseverence and intelligence took charge over her insecurity issues, and Kakashi finally got over himself. YES! Now they're totally happy in my happy mental fanon land. I regret doubting the author; never will I doubt again!
The Window has 3 chapters out now; I'm thinking it looks like it will be somewhere between Seven Days and DBH: more serious and more outright sexy than Seven Days but less traumatic than DBH. It also has Sakura feeling more adult.
Lucid doesn't have any new chapters, though I have written some for chapter 7. I might trash it though, because it didn't feel right. But I have 10 days left to really write.
All this Silvershine fic is both inspiring but also damaging to my fic, because I'm still a little torn on how to present Sakura. On the one hand I have Kakashi obsessing about her age as an excuse to stay away from her, but on Sakura's side I wanted to show her as basically what she appears to be in The Window-- a sexually active young woman whose not afraid of the idea of a sexual relationship, even though she's never gone for an older guy before. It's a hard to pinpoint balance for me-- defining her level of experience as compared to what Kakashi thinks her level of experience is. Then add to that her actual maturity level compared to his. It's very confusing in my brain.
In my Lucidverse she's had two previous boyfriends she's been intimate with: a short and awkward (less than two weeks, maybe less than a week) affair with Random Ninja #53, and then a 7-8 month relationship with Lee, which only ended about a month or so before Lucid begins, meaning about a month and a half before the current chapter and her 17th birthday. I wanted her to have been through both of those experiences before so she doesn't look at Kakashi as potential for FIRST serious boyfriend. I wnat to make her mature that way... but I also want the flip side: I want to milk the humor of her trying to go for Kakashi but not being very good about it.
Hm... thinking about that just gave me a thought on how to proceed... Because her first two relationships (short and long) were with people her age, she does have experience but she doesn't have experience with an older guy, much less with being the pursuer. Both Random Ninja and Rock Lee had pursued *her*. So... I can get humor from her trying to go after Kakashi like he's a science project. And of course she's completely unaware that he's got his own internal issues to go through.
It couldn't have ended like a sad learning experience, unless she was going to write a sequel to it. I mean, you really can't do that to a character unless you're planning on giving them something positive in the end. Because that just doesn't sell (not that SilverShine needs to sell anything, because she's Just That Good). What's the point of learning something if you don't get to put it into practice?
I jumped into The Window and I love how they're both considering each other and how Sakura can't get him out of her head--it's realistic things like that that really make her fic. Though I'm with Kakashi in how he wishes she hadn't been treated so poorly--one of the things I really liked about DBH was how she was a virgin, and had all the extra insecurities and the ideals about sex. Though the idea of Kakashi teaching her how to have good sex is also delicious. :-b
I get what you're saying in your Sakura problems--balancing characters is tough. Though you do have the bonus of getting to age them yourselves, so you can perhaps plot Sakura's development (like you have) and then figure her out in terms of herself, and then switch to Kakashi's feelings on her, but still have the basic Sakura outlined. (Being a genius, you've probably already done that...). I like the science project idea though. Very much. *giggles*
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Date: 2007-01-16 06:07 pm (UTC)*cough* Which reminds me...
I forgive you for introducing me to the Kakasaku pairing and Narutodom in general, and I formally apologize for all the death threats I may/may not have sent in your direction after things like DBH Chap. 17. I didn't really mean it. What I really meant to say was
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. FINALLY. THANK GOD FOR CATHARSIS. EVEN CHAPTER 18 HAD ME READY TO EXPLODE. BUT THIS...THIS IS AN ENDING I CAN LIVE WITH. REVEL IN, EVEN.
*sighs happily*
my author alerts (yay for author alerts) tell me I also have a great deal of catching up to do on your stuff, too. is there another chapter of Lucid, yet?
*hums the happy tune of a satisfied fangirl* :-)
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Date: 2007-01-16 08:26 pm (UTC)I was *so* happy about DBH, too. I was worried it'd end with a bad experience for all, like a sad bitter learning thing. But then Sakura's perseverence and intelligence took charge over her insecurity issues, and Kakashi finally got over himself. YES! Now they're totally happy in my happy mental fanon land. I regret doubting the author; never will I doubt again!
The Window has 3 chapters out now; I'm thinking it looks like it will be somewhere between Seven Days and DBH: more serious and more outright sexy than Seven Days but less traumatic than DBH. It also has Sakura feeling more adult.
Lucid doesn't have any new chapters, though I have written some for chapter 7. I might trash it though, because it didn't feel right. But I have 10 days left to really write.
All this Silvershine fic is both inspiring but also damaging to my fic, because I'm still a little torn on how to present Sakura. On the one hand I have Kakashi obsessing about her age as an excuse to stay away from her, but on Sakura's side I wanted to show her as basically what she appears to be in The Window-- a sexually active young woman whose not afraid of the idea of a sexual relationship, even though she's never gone for an older guy before. It's a hard to pinpoint balance for me-- defining her level of experience as compared to what Kakashi thinks her level of experience is. Then add to that her actual maturity level compared to his. It's very confusing in my brain.
In my Lucidverse she's had two previous boyfriends she's been intimate with: a short and awkward (less than two weeks, maybe less than a week) affair with Random Ninja #53, and then a 7-8 month relationship with Lee, which only ended about a month or so before Lucid begins, meaning about a month and a half before the current chapter and her 17th birthday. I wanted her to have been through both of those experiences before so she doesn't look at Kakashi as potential for FIRST serious boyfriend. I wnat to make her mature that way... but I also want the flip side: I want to milk the humor of her trying to go for Kakashi but not being very good about it.
Hm... thinking about that just gave me a thought on how to proceed... Because her first two relationships (short and long) were with people her age, she does have experience but she doesn't have experience with an older guy, much less with being the pursuer. Both Random Ninja and Rock Lee had pursued *her*. So... I can get humor from her trying to go after Kakashi like he's a science project. And of course she's completely unaware that he's got his own internal issues to go through.
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Date: 2007-01-16 08:40 pm (UTC)It couldn't have ended like a sad learning experience, unless she was going to write a sequel to it. I mean, you really can't do that to a character unless you're planning on giving them something positive in the end. Because that just doesn't sell (not that SilverShine needs to sell anything, because she's Just That Good). What's the point of learning something if you don't get to put it into practice?
I jumped into The Window and I love how they're both considering each other and how Sakura can't get him out of her head--it's realistic things like that that really make her fic. Though I'm with Kakashi in how he wishes she hadn't been treated so poorly--one of the things I really liked about DBH was how she was a virgin, and had all the extra insecurities and the ideals about sex. Though the idea of Kakashi teaching her how to have good sex is also delicious. :-b
I get what you're saying in your Sakura problems--balancing characters is tough. Though you do have the bonus of getting to age them yourselves, so you can perhaps plot Sakura's development (like you have) and then figure her out in terms of herself, and then switch to Kakashi's feelings on her, but still have the basic Sakura outlined. (Being a genius, you've probably already done that...). I like the science project idea though. Very much. *giggles*
Good luck!