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Well, I didn't get hired at Abercrombie & Fitch. That's ok, I didn't really want to work there anyway. And I actuially mean that, you know.

Where I wanted to work: Hot Topic. And guess what! I have an inteview tomorrow morning! This is much of the good. I love that store-- punk music, skater clothes, gothic jewelry, and freak apparell. I thought I might not be scary enough to work there-- we'll see. I'll have to consider my wardrobe carefully.

The bad is it's a group interview. The same kind of group interview I apparently didn't pass with A&F. Oh well, I'll wow them. After all, someone has to give a freakin' job.

Fanfic

several things really, really annoy me in fanfic. As I previously mentioned, Giles having a split personality is one major peeve. Here's some more:

1. post-Grave fics in which Dawn take's Spike's side (in those conversations when he's not there to protest)and makes Buffy feel guilty for her bad in the relationship. Even if she likes him (which she did), Dawn would never side with Spike after he tried to rape her sister. She might forgive him, but she'd support Buffy. I think it'a awful because it excuses attempted rape, and softens or confuses a serious issue. This is so unrealistic it's not funny--and yet I'm always seeing it.

2. The fixation on Spike's tv-habits, and the constant need to have Passions references in EVERYFUCKINGTHING. It was only mentioned twice in the whole freakin' show, and not even in the last two years. We know he likes daytime tv, already. I don't need it shoved down my throat everytime I read fic. For all we know he could have stopped watching the damn show when Joyce died. The humor in reading it has long lost its appeal. Referecences like that, if made, should be subtle. And Spike must've watched hella tv-- try something besides soap operas next time.

3. Hot chocolate & marshmellows. see above for same reasoning. So. Fucking. Tired. of this in fics. Subtlety people! SUBTLETY!

4. Xander being called "Whelp". Ugly, ugly fanfic trend. Has no basis in canon, and furhtermore jsut sounds bad after the first three times. Spike calls Xander by his last name, by some reference to his job, or by the fact that he's Bufyf's hang-er-on "boy" or sidekick. He never freaking calls him whelp.

5. Willow being called "Red" by Spike. Yes, he's said it in the show... but it's been less times than I can count on one hand. He also calls her witch, and by her acutal name. Go for variety people.


That's all I can think of for now.... but the list is ever growing in the back of my mind. What about everyone else? Do these things bug you guys, or do you have different pet peeves?

Date: 2003-01-31 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When Spike says 'cor' I can never take a fic seriously when he starts talking like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

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Date: 2003-01-31 03:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Yeh, that's bad too. Irritating.

:shrug: I don't even know what "cor" means, except it seems to be said a lot when Spike's surprised, in awe of Buffy's smutty body, or rantingly upset. So not only is it overused, I can't even tell if its being overused ocrrectly or incorrectly.

Date: 2003-01-31 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-kimera823.livejournal.com
*nods* I agree with you on most of those... except the Dawn one. I *could* see her defending Spike, if she takes her friendship to the point where she believes Spike can Do No Wrong, and that obviously Xander doesn't know what he's talking about. Of course, whether or not an author can pull that additude off successfully without making it sound like they're, as you said, excusing attempted rape, is another issue entirely.

I really only can think one big ff pet peeve atm, besides the ones you mentioned, and that's people who follow "fanfic trends". It seems like every time I find a really good fic... a week later a thousand carbon copies will spring up. Original ideas become so overused that they get tacky, and that's not fair to whoever came up with the idea in the first place.

More will probably come to me though.

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Date: 2003-01-31 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
if she takes her friendship to the point where she believes Spike can Do No Wrong, and that obviously Xander doesn't know what he's talking about.

Well, see, I don't mean Dawn not believing Xander, I mean the fics where Dawn confronts Buffy about B/S, and she hears about the ADR, from Buffy, and she still defends Spike and says Buffy needs to "apologize" for using him last year. Buffy does of course, but so often these fics make it like Buffy's abuse of Spike is far worse than him tryign to rape her. I for one think the constant mental & physical abuse (and when she beat him and left him immobile) is on the same level as the AR, but not worse. And these scenes always make it like Buffy is the one who has to do all the apologizing. But it's not the debate over whose guilty that matters, its the fact that they often have Dawn siding with Spike over Buffy, even reprimanding Buffy. And I just don't see how Dawn would side against her *sister* in something like this-- no way. Buffy will always have Dawn's loyalty before Spike; that's what family is.

Date: 2003-01-31 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-kimera823.livejournal.com
In that case, yeah. I definitely think Dawn would side with Buffy. At most she'd probably realise that there are two sides to the issue. Actually, this is one of those rare times where I *completely* agree with how it was portrayed onscreen ;).

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Date: 2003-01-31 06:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Actually, this is one of those rare times where I *completely* agree with how it was portrayed onscreen ;).

I'm with you there. I thought Dawn's reactions in BY were perfect for her character and situation, especially since we all know that Closed!Mouth!Buffy probably didn't divulge to Dawn how she treated Spike-- at the very least, not in detail. It made sense that Dawn would feel doubly betrayed-- he broke Buffy's trust and he broke hers, because she obviously held tightly to the idea that Spike loved Buffy. But a lot of the mediocre-to-poorer written fics don't portray it how it was on the show, or they were written before hand.

Date: 2003-01-31 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweet-ali.livejournal.com
I don't even know what "cor" means

From what i understand, it's from the British phrase "Cor Blimey" which means God Blind Me. So, i guess Spike is murmuring, "God..." or something. Whatever it is, annoys the hell out of me b/c Spike has never said that on the show. Also along the lines of an irritating piece of dialogue, i hate Willow saying "Oh Goddess". I think she's actually said that on screen once, or maybe twice. Just bugs me.

Oh, can i give you a couple more fic pet peeves?

I will anyway *g*

I HATE how these three Vampiric qualities that are almost always obsessed upon:
-body temperature
-breathing
-cold...erm..seed


My feeling is that if we are reading these fics, we KNOW what a vamp is. No need to constantly be reminded about the cold contrast of Spike's skin against Buffy's overwhelming heat, or that he was panting unneeded breaths, and damn, but if i'm reading a nice piece of smut, the moment they say he shot his dead, cold seed into her womb...bleech! Um, how is that sexy again? Vampire, check. Cannot produce life, has low body temp, and does not need to breathe. We know...

Oh! ANd blood tears! Very Anne Rice. Very annoying...

Hm. Maybe that was a bit much to put in a comment ::shrugs::

Date: 2003-02-01 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hils.livejournal.com
Urgh! I totally agree with you on all of those.

Spike calling Tara "Glinda" is another one of my pet peeves.

Spike saying "Cor"

Generally cliched stories and people without any original ideas. I swear if I see another 'after the chruch' scene or another 'after the rescue' scene I may scream. It's not that I don't enjoy the concept of 'what happened next'. It's just when all the stories are the same that I get annoyed.

Ah, fanfic peeves

Date: 2003-02-04 04:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi there Rashaka.

Randomly surfing around Buffy community LJs and thought I'd make a quick comment. Just briefly, Sweet Ali is right - 'cor' is taken from 'Cor blimey.' It's not so much used to say 'God' though. It's expressing surprise, along the lines of 'Jeepers Creepers,''Wowza' or 'I'm flummoxed.'

As for fic peeves, after years of XF and Buffy fic reading, I have a lot. I won't get into those, but I will mention something that I find *seriously* annoying on fanfic.net; the people who don't think up a title for their fic (or ask a reader to supply one) or who say 'I'm not good at summaries but I promise this is worth reading.' Also, when the summary is posed as a question: "What if Buffy never died...? And what if Spike saved her...?" Give me a break! If you can't even be bothered writing a summary or thinking up a title for your fic, then why oh why have you posted it? Anyway, slightly OT, that's more a fanfic.net rant than a peeve about fic in general.

Also, I totally agree with your comments about Dawn siding with Spike. There was a big reaction to the attempted rape (quite rightly) in the Buffy community, but I always thought that its most disturbing manifestation was the stories written by young viewers who dealt with it by 'writing away' the severity of the attack. I mean, sure, it's just TV. But these were very young girls who would rather just set it aside on account of Spike's hotness, and that worries me in terms of the real world.

I'm babbling. Nice commenting to ya!
Helen

Re: Ah, fanfic peeves

Date: 2003-02-04 08:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
the people who don't think up a title for their fic (or ask a reader to supply one) or who say 'I'm not good at summaries but I promise this is worth reading.' Also, when the summary is posed as a question: "What if Buffy never died...?

ah... Here's someone who shares my pain. That's a peeve for me too... frequently I don't even bother to follow the link and look at those types of fic. The only kind of writnt that I think can be excused for not having a title or much of a summary is poetry.

Re: Ah, fanfic peeves

Date: 2003-02-05 01:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi again

Nah, I don't look at them either. Sometimes I click on one to use it as a fanfic.net 'bookmark' though, so I can remember where I'm up to. So I may be giving some authors a happy by making them think I'm reading the fic. So selfless, I am ;-)

If I happen to be having a particularly peevy day I get all enraged about the ones that ask questions, and start asking the author's stupid questions of my own. Not out loud, of course, cos that'd be crazy.

Helen

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