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Some of my flist is talking about this chapter, as something pretty significant happened.

I've got a more explicit reaction to Hinata's death scene here in reply to [livejournal.com profile] mildmay, but I got into a tangent discussion about ships on [livejournal.com profile] redbrunja's journal, and I reposted it below. NaruHina's never really done it for me. It's always felt so unrequited. Plus, I didn't even *like* Hinata that much until the time-jump.

But now...lately I've been reassessing Hinata and while I'm still bored by her "type" of character, I did cheer for her this chapter.

And I'm kind of feeling...like I don't want Hinata to be with anyone. Or at least not anyone in canon, not until she's a hot 22 year old or something. I want her personal growth arc to go full circle: as part of loving and learning from her idol, she outgrows her infatuation with Naruto and eventually lets go of that pain as well.


After everything that happens, after Pein and the way it almost all ended, after the Great War and the four years of peace that followed, Hinata looks back fondly on her first love, and she knows she will always think of Naruto with affection. They fight in more battles together and at a crazy drunken birthday party she kisses him--then she laughs, and he laughs, and she hugs him and tells him, "You're my f-favorite, just w-wanted you to know."

When the village of Rain falls to civil war they fight side by side to maintain the security of Fire Country's borders. One bloody morning Hinata sees the sword before he does, and if she hadn't grabbed his utility belt to pull him into the mud Naruto would've been a head shorter and never lived to accept the Hokage robes from an eagerly abdicating Kakashi.

Years pass; they change bit by bit (and down they forgot as up they grew). She sends him holiday cards and invites his family to eat with hers in the home she built across the city from the Hyuuga complex, where she has a husband she loves not because he's perfect or because he's everything she wishes she could be-- instead he's good and he fits and they're happy because around him she already is what she wants to be, as effortlessly as breathing. Her children laugh while they bicker over who has the best aim, and who is Uncle Hokage's favorite, and none of them, none of them wear a mark.

Date: 2009-03-01 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mildmay.livejournal.com
You know, I don't know that I want anyone in Naruto to really end up with anyone romantically in canon. Friendship has always been the big theme. Romance is not terribly relevant. So paring people off would seem forced.

But, that aside, I agree that it would be better for Hinata not to get into a serious relationship until she's several years older. She needs to finish finding herself first.

Date: 2009-03-01 10:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I know what you mean... to me, most of the ships are interchangeable, and for characters like Sasuke, I actively *don't* want some people to end up with anyone in the village. Sasuke doesn't deserve a Konoha ninja as a lover at this point.

The ships that I do care about is pretty much down to one... Naruto & Sakura. But in a strictly canon way, where I like them, because they're sweet together at this point. In fandom? I'm all over the Kakashi/Sakura train. I'd be all over it in canon if I ever thought it was possible.

From what I've read, a fair amount of the people who are NaruHina fans want them together because they want Hinata to have the guy she loves. I feel the same sentiment...for Naruto. I want Naruto to have the person he loves, which was and still seems to be Sakura. And since the time jump it's seemed like Sakura's more receptive to Naruto on all levels, so it feels very plausible to me.

Date: 2009-03-01 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mildmay.livejournal.com
Sasuke needs like. A billion years of therapy before he should get into a romantic relationship with anyone, anyway. XD

I...don't really ship any of the plausible relationships. I mean, I'm not necessarily AGAINST any of them, and if any of them become canon I'm not going to be displeased or anything. But something about Naruto pings the crack shipper in me. So I tend to enjoy random, completely unlikely pairings.

Date: 2009-03-03 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mshepnj.livejournal.com
I would actually prefer that Kishimoto NOT tie up any romantic loose ends if it's going to be predictable. Naruto, Hinata and their peers are still only 16 and there is so much more for them to do before they are ready to think about pairing off. If he wants to leave it ambiguous, that suits me because that lets the fans decide for themselves what the future may hold (KakaSaku FTW!).

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