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[Poll #171235]

I ask this because I was at fictionalley.org (HP fan forum) and someone said "I still don't understand why the H/Hr ship is called the HMS Pumpkin Pie when Pumpkin Pie doesn't even exist."

TRAVESTY!

Imagine a life without pumpkin pie.

My conclusion: Maybe she's European. Lots of European HP fans.

And so you have the poll. Unfortunately I can't see the results until I vote, so I'm going to pick the last one just for fun.

Date: 2003-08-21 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mery-fr.livejournal.com
I only know about pumpkin pie because it's a tradition. It was something I learned in school when taught about Thanksgiving, picked up on TV or in books. However, it's hardly a common dish over here. I've tasted it once and didn't like it.
And yes, I did find it very weird at first. A pumpkin desert? Headshake, followed by a slightly mocking "Americans".
Being young and stupid makes for amusing memories.

Date: 2003-08-21 06:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
You guys get taught about our Thanksgiving? That seems kinda weird to me. I didn't even know what Bastille Day was until 10th grade.

However, it's hardly a common dish over here. I've tasted it once and didn't like it.

Ah, that's too bad. I love it, especially with whipped cream. It's very sweet with loads of sugar, but kinda spicy too.

And yes, I did find it very weird at first. A pumpkin desert?

Definite culture break then-- I've had it since I was a kid so it seems normal to me. Like a fruit pie... well, with a vegetable. It's actually the only way I normally would eat pumpkin. In fact, the only other thing I've had pumpkin in was pumpkin bread/muffins. Which were alright.

Date: 2003-08-21 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lanieday.livejournal.com
Obviously not European so I can't like take part in your poll but pumpkin pie. The best thing in the world. Pumpkin ice cream almost as good but pumpkin pie? Well those on the other side of the pond don't know what they're missing.

Date: 2003-08-21 05:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I know! It sounds absolutely horrid, doesn't it? I know they doesn't celebrate our Thanksgiving day obviously, but no pumpkin pie for Christmas dinners or Halloween even... ::shudder:: makes me want to start shipping out cans of pie filling & copies of recipes for the LJ people in the UK. No pie... that's just wrong. I hope they at least have pecan pie.

Date: 2003-08-22 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleph-0.livejournal.com
Pecan pie? Only as an American import. You might be able to get it on the pudding trolley at some middle-to-lowbrow restaurants, and at the US-themed ones like TGI Fridays, but it's not standard Brit food. Pecans don't grow here, I don't think.

Date: 2003-08-22 10:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
No PECAN pie?

My god. What do you people eat for a Christmas morning sugar rush, I ask.

However, this is a bit enlightening in the sense that there's more food out there that originates from America than I thought. I used to think all we could claim as local was corn.

Date: 2003-08-21 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bathsweaver.livejournal.com
American, so can't take part in your poll, sadly.

But--mmmmm. Love pumpkin pie. Almost as good as sweet potato pie.

::smirks, luxuriates in her Southern heritage::
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
But--mmmmm. Love pumpkin pie.

Makes you want to fast forward to November, doesn't it?
From: [identity profile] bathsweaver.livejournal.com
LOL--it's by [livejournal.com profile] behindblue_eyes, and of course it's sharable.

She offered it up on [livejournal.com profile] buffy_icons in honor of her new community [livejournal.com profile] icon_crossovers. Enjoy, and drop her a note!

:-)

Not exactly european...

Date: 2003-08-21 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vero-72.livejournal.com
but latin american, and I never heard of it until I came here. Haven't tried it yet because it just seems wrong.

Re: Not exactly european...

Date: 2003-08-21 10:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Try some with the next winter holiday season. Make sure you have whipped cream to eat with it though; it's absolutely part of the eating experience, and changes the taste somewhat-- the pie is kind of mildly spicy, and the whipped cream is sweet. I have to admit that pecan pie is my favorite kind of pie (the most concentrated amount of sugar in any food dish ever, I swear), but pumpkin is second. "The last piece of pumpkin pie" are practically fighting words in my home.

Date: 2003-08-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onetwomany.livejournal.com
Australian, but of Anglo-Celt stock, and I can safely say that Pumpkin Pie isn’t native to the Motherland.

Pumpkin is actually a rather downtrodden vegetable in European history. My granddad wouldn’t eat it at all – “pig’s food” , apparently.

Date: 2003-08-21 10:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
That's what they said used to say about corn on the cob. Phhhsssshhhhaaaawwww. What'd they know. ::melodramatic bellow:: Pumpkin Pie now, Pumpkin Pie forEVER!

Though to be honest, except for pie and occaisional muffins, I don't actually eat pumpkins for anything else either.

Date: 2003-08-22 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/skylar_/
Nope, no pumpkin pie over here. All I know about american thanksgiving celebration I've learnend from Disney, Charlie Brown and TV Shows.

I also remember how confused I was as a child that the kids on television had to wait till the morning of the first christmas day to open their presents.:o)

Date: 2003-08-22 12:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
yeah, you guys open it at night, huh? I always thought that was weird. You don't have any of that anxiety going to sleep, or that ability to wake up at 6:30 before your parents and rush out there to look at what you get. When does Santa come for you, if not during the night?

All I know about american thanksgiving celebration I've learnend from Disney, Charlie Brown and TV Shows.

Mostly it's a time to make an extravagant meal that you can share with your family and friends. One time two years ago my brother brought a friend of his from the San Diego Navy base upstate to our Thanksgiving family dinner, because the guy's relatives were back in Kentucky and he would have been all alone. Sometimes being alone for Thanksgiving is almost worse than being alone for Christmas. Every sub-family is going to have its own Christmas things to do, and you might only be with parents and siblings, but Thanksgiving is when our entire extended family tries to get together, so it's much different.

Date: 2003-08-23 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/skylar_/
Actually, we don't really have Santa to bring us presents. Our kind of Santa is Saint Nikolaus, and he comes on the 6th of December to put sweets in your shoes (which you put outside the door the night before) if you were a good kid. If you were a bad kid, his helper, Knecht Ruprecht, beats you up with a bundle of twigs.
On christmas Eve, the presents are brought by the Christ Child. At least it was that way when I was a kid, but I'm sure Santa will take over soon enough. We tend to 'snatch' more and more american festivity figures. For instance, a few years ago, nobody cared for Halloween, but recently there're more and more Halloween decoration and parties everywhere. We have a special day for collecting sweets at the doors though. At Saint Martin's Day, all the kids go from door to door carrying(mostly self-made) Laterns and singing songs about what a samaritan Saint Martin was and getting sweets therefore. I'm not religious, but that always was one of my favourite holidays. ;)

Date: 2003-08-23 06:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Actually, we don't really have Santa to bring us presents. Our kind of Santa is Saint Nikolaus, and he comes on the 6th of December to put sweets in your shoes (which you put outside the door the night before) if you were a good kid. If you were a bad kid, his helper, Knecht Ruprecht, beats you up with a bundle of twigs.

I've read about that. I was being kinda sarcastic about the Santa thing-- I know not everyone has the same christmas story. :)

On christmas Eve, the presents are brought by the Christ Child.

Finally got tired of the all insense and decided to pawn it off on others, did he?

What's weird about about Halloween is that it's a pagan holiday, from European history (the roman church also made in into a saint's day in order to convert the locals), and yet American (Canadian?) settlers seemed to have taken it and over time changed it into what it is now. Very strange.

Date: 2003-08-23 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/skylar_/
Finally got tired of the all insense and decided to pawn it off on others, did he

Speaking for myself, I prefer Santa. He seems more fun to have around and he know how to put in an appearance at christmas. Not to forget the christmas songs. I'm one of this weird people who constantly sing Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer, Santa Baby and Santa Claus is coming to town during the whole season. :o)

What's weird about about Halloween is that it's a pagan holiday, from European history

I think the irish still celebrate it as its origin, Samhain. At least the owner of the Irish pub I worked at did.

Date: 2003-08-23 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that almost nobody celebrates it as Samhain in America except some very old traditional families, and of course people who practice Wicca.

Date: 2003-08-22 12:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Thanksgiving is also the biggest forum for inter-family argument EVER for my family. Seriously, there's nothing like putting your parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, and cousins all together in one room to get some really heated conversation going. And then it turns fun because all the arugments get personal. After Thanksgiving weekend is over most people are glad to go home simply to let everything settle down.

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