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Every day that I open the newspaper and see another front page article about San Francisco, I get this smile on my face that just gets bigger and bigger.

It's anarchy by marriage. It's so sweet.

I've been thinking about mailing a thank you card to the mayor, or the office that issues marriage liscences.

Date: 2004-02-18 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valerie-z.livejournal.com
Me too. I heard them interviewing one of the people who got married on NPS last night, and I cried. This is one of those big, historic moments I'm glad to live through.

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Date: 2004-02-18 03:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
This is one of those big, historic moments I'm glad to live through.

I'm glad too. And you know what else makes me happy? I was talking to my dad, and he pointed out that the negative reaction to this has been incredibly low, and mostly comes down to the lawyers. If this were such a blasphemous, terrible act to the eyes of America, where are the crowds of tens of thousands rising in protest? ::looks around:: If people are too blase' about the whole thing to get on their righteous horse and charge down on the deviants... well, that only speaks better for how we are progressing. The world didn't collapse into uproar and "abandon god" and all that just because a few people got married.

Sometimes I try to think about the affects of this, both positive and negative, and what it means for the election year and for the Supreme Court and for the future... but every time I seriously try to consider it as a political issue, my brain just dwindles back down to a simple cycling thought:

People are getting married! Marriage is a happy thing! People are happy! Yay people!

And that's all there really ought to be to it.

Date: 2004-02-18 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com
Anarchy by marriage. What a great phrase! And what a great event, too.

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Date: 2004-02-18 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
You know, I'm kinda proud of that phrase. ::giggle:: I wonder if I can [livejournal.com profile] metaquote myself.

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Date: 2004-02-18 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com
If you don't, I will. As soon as I finish this CB icon series that is eating my brain omg I must kill.

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Date: 2004-02-18 03:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
CB Icons! ::glomp::

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Date: 2004-02-18 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com
I almost hate you for introducing me to that damned AMV. I wouldn't be obsessively making a set of 30+ icons otherwise.

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Date: 2004-02-18 04:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
WhooHooooo!!! You mean that Bed of Lies AMV? Awesome. I need some more CB icons anyway. Not that I can keep track of the icons that I do have already.

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Date: 2004-02-18 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com
That'd be the one. And soon you'll have more than enough, though I can't say whether you'll like `em.

I think I have succumbed to the Faye/Spike-ness, but my contrary nature prevails: I only like them together after the series. How's that for weird shipping?

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Date: 2004-02-18 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Not so weird. I only really like them together sometime after episode 23-- Brain Scratch. That's when I first really thought of them as a workable ship.

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Date: 2004-02-18 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com
I don't think they could ever work during the series, because, well--I don't think there's anything to work with, frankly. I think Faye loves him (and Jet and Ed, though...hopefully in different ways) but she's not in love with him. She's got herself too guarded for that. Spike has his own shit to get through.

But afterwards, Julia is dead and Spike didn't die knows that life moves on and she's not his holy symbol anymore. I don't think that it's inevitable that they get together, that they necessarily should, but I could see it working.

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Date: 2004-02-18 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
It would be more accurate to say that Brain Scratch was when I first saw the future possibility of them. I do agree that even if they got into a relationship, it would never work out for any long period of time if Julia is still out there and he has even the most remote hope of getting back that dream he's built up.

When I saw the end I was sad for Faye, because she was that "if only there had been time" figure... she was a "could have been" love that never got to flourish because he died instead of returning.

Date: 2004-02-18 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hecatehatesthat.livejournal.com
How fucking awesome is the semicolon thing? Uh, no, actually, we're not gonna order them to stop, because you have bad grammar. BWA!

::hearts San Fransisco::

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Date: 2004-02-18 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
semi-colon? I think I missed that one.

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Date: 2004-02-18 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hecatehatesthat.livejournal.com
HEADLINE: Punctuation gaffe stalls court bid
SOURCE: Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO -- Two judges delayed taking any action Tuesday to shut down San Francisco's same-sex wedding spree, rebuffing conservative groups enraged the city's liberal politicians had already married nearly 2,400 gay and lesbian couples.

The reason? A punctuation error -- in this case a semicolon.

"It is a big deal," said San Francisco Superior Court Judge James Warren.

The Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund had asked for an order commanding the city to "cease and desist issuing marriage licences to and/or solemnizing marriages of same-sex couples; to show cause before this court."

"The way you've written this it has a semicolon where it should have the word 'or,' " the judge told plaintiffs. "I don't have the authority to issue it under these circumstances."

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Date: 2004-02-18 06:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
::falls out of chair laughing::

I love them. Or, I love our fucked up system that makes such a stall mandatory anyway.

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