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Damn!

I just found out that One Piece has been playing on Fox on Saturday mornings at 9:30am!

I could be watching that. It's a kooky, cute anime with pirates. I could be watching pirate anime! But I didn't even know it was on! Damn. I didn't even know it'd been liscenced and dubbed already.

Why didn't anyone tell me when stuff like this happens?

Current Mood: surprised

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From:

rashaka.livejournal.com

you know... this episode is why Mugen is different from Spike. Spike had been loved. He knows what it is to love someone and be loved so much you'd risk your life for them and they for you. He'd had his textbook true love and was bitter about losing it.

Mugen's never had that. Even the girl he was in a relationship of sorts with back on that island wasn't like real love.

From:

octopedingenue

I've never really understood the fandom tendency to lump Mugen and Spike together just because they're both Watanabe creations. They have superficial similarities in attitude and flair, but...yeah. They're vastly different characters, and I love them in completely different ways.

And you're dead on about their experiences with love. Mugen's never had anybody. Even Spike had Vicious as almost a brother for a while in addition to Julia; Mugen didn't even like Mukuro (the Vicious-like pirate from the island), and while I think he came closest to loving Kohza (the pirate girl), he never really let down his guard enough to let her in. He's never really been loved (although I still think Kohza kinda did), and even more he's never really loved anybody.

Until now. And it scares him to death, and it's starting to crack him. Fuu and Jin are his family now, and the thought of losing that sense of family--in conjunction with having to kill Sara to protect them, when he's come to care about her, too--oh man, he's never ever shown that kind of emotion before (the way he runs off swearing to look for Jin, the way he screams at Fuu to stay away from danger). Scares him to death. Just contrast the scene at the end of 14 with the end of 21 (they use the same music!): in 14 he's expressionless, hardening like stone to keep from having to care even about being merciful; in 21 he's almost crying.

I am thinking/hoping/guessing that in some ways Champloo will have a more hopeful ending (for Mugen, at least) than Bebop did for Spike. Spike chose not to let go of his past; Mugen's choosing to let go of his, even if he's choosing against his will. I really need to make my bigass Mugen analysis post already...

(It is really sad that a scene with Mugen and Jin talking civilly to one another can make me cry.)

From:

rashaka.livejournal.com

I've never really understood the fandom tendency to lump Mugen and Spike together just because they're both Watanabe creations.

I haven't either. But haven't you made jokes about it and stuff? Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else and mixing you up.

And it scares him to death, and it's starting to crack him.

Word.

Just contrast the scene at the end of 14 with the end of 21 (they use the same music!): in 14 he's expressionless, hardening like stone to keep from having to care even about being merciful; in 21 he's almost crying.

What happened in episode 14 again? I deleted the episodes and only have 17-21 right now.

I am thinking/hoping/guessing that in some ways Champloo will have a more hopeful ending (for Mugen, at least) than Bebop did for Spike.

I agree. So far Champloo has strayed away from everything typical or classic, and Bebop embraced the classic tragedy scenario. I was really worried about Jin dying because SC does have that element of realism (like FMA) that makes me think they'd be willing to kill off a major character if it's a situation where a person would realistically die, but I've never thought that SC would end in tragedy. It's never really occured to me, though I saw it coming long before hand with CB. For Samurai Champloo...it just hasn't been set up that way.

I don't think it would be a necessarily happy ending either, but probably somewhere in the middle.

Forget the essay, girl! You need to be writing us some fanfiction! And not just my smutty request-- I'd love some SC angst from you.

From:

octopedingenue

I don't think I joked about Mugen and Spike being the same, unless I was talking about their superficial similarities. I could be wrong, though; I don't really remember, and I might've originally thought they were more alike than I've come to believe.

Episode 14 is the second half of the two-parter about Mugen's past growing up on the convict island and then as a pirate (and starts out with his gorgeous drowning/flashback sequence). He has the chance to kill Kohza at the end of the episode for betraying him, and instead just walks past her (as she begs him to kill her), managing to be both merciful and to leave her to a fate he knows is worse than death for her: being alone.

I think Jin is more likely to die than Mugen, now. It will still break my heart if he does. I think Mugen's job is to keep living, for the sake of others if not for his own--now that he's actually living, and not just surviving.

Forget the essay, girl! You need to be writing us some fanfiction! And not just my smutty request-- I'd love some SC angst from you.

I actually decided that the perfect scenario for your smut ficlet was in this episode, with injured Mugen and Fuu together, Fuu saying, "If you went away too, I--" and Mugen admitting "I might really die this time." They're together, alone, emotionally vulnerable, and have just basically admitted that they love each other (in whatever way you interpret that)--aaand the episode cuts away and doesn't come back. You could totally fit a missing scene first-time sleeping-together story. I don't wanna do it though, 'cause A)this ep is still making me hurt, B)I don't write smut anyway, and C)the thought of Mugen having sex with that giant slash across his lower torso is making me go oww, oww, OWW, oww.

I have no real idea of how Champloo is going to end, and that is...really pleasantly surprising to me. It's going to be a different kind of unforeseen ending than FMA (I doubt Mugen will go to another dimension, for one thing...), but maybe just as compelling.