WHY? WHY? Why is that necessary?
*Warning: loss of soul or heart attack is not my responsibility.
EDIT: It's like some sick masochistic urge. I keep going back to the link, watching for a few seconds, then shrieking like a ten year old girl and exiting out the window in a hurry. Make it go AWAY! It's too horrible.
EDIT 2: I wish my parents weren't visiting relatives in Northern California right now. I think I need a hug. From my mom.
*Warning: loss of soul or heart attack is not my responsibility.
EDIT: It's like some sick masochistic urge. I keep going back to the link, watching for a few seconds, then shrieking like a ten year old girl and exiting out the window in a hurry. Make it go AWAY! It's too horrible.
EDIT 2: I wish my parents weren't visiting relatives in Northern California right now. I think I need a hug. From my mom.
Re: a rec for you too, and general random late night thoughts
Date: 2005-06-13 10:08 pm (UTC)nice 9 fic I found: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2431366/1/
It has Nine interacting mentally with all his previous incarnations. To be honest I couldn't appreciate most of it, not having watched the other ones, but I did enjoy the Eight conversation, as it addresses a little of what we've been speculating about-- Eight's role in the Time War. Though I wish it could have been developed and explored a bit more.
Thanks for the rec!
It did feel a bit quick, but I suppose that fits within the time-constraints of the situation, and there's enough to it to make the resolution work. Watching him rough himself up like that was quite disturbing, but that just made the less antagonistic parts of the exchange ("How do you deal with it?" he whispered roughly) all the more effective. I went from shifting anxiously in my seat, to staring at the screen, to wanting to cry at the end there.
To paraphrase the Brigadier: Poor man. All of them.
The ferry scene with the Fourth Doctor packs a great big punch if one has seen "Genesis of the Daleks." And I have, and... ouch. If you don't mind spoilers, I'll go into it....
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The Doctor is culpable for the Time War in more than one incarnation.
In Genesis of The Daleks, the TimeLords send Four back in time to the planet where the Daleks were genetically engineered, just prior to their creation. They want him to prevent the Daleks from being created, or change the course of their development enough so that they don't pose as great a threat to the future.
You know the little, squid-like creature that was inside the pepperpot in "Dalek"? It was a genetically engineered mutation of the original inhabitants of the planet. They were the by products of scientific experiments meant to aid the winning of a war that was being fought. Anyway, lots of stuff happens (it's a very well written ep!), including a conversation between the scientist who created the Daleks and the Doctor about the morality of preventing a "virus" from existing, but in the end the Doctor has a bomb hooked up to the sort of "nursery" room of the genetic mutations.
"...maybe earlier, some other person had a chance to wipe out the enemy before they even were the enemy, but that person didn't do it. Perhaps that person is responsible. And someone else had a chance to release a virus that could have decimated the enemy, but they held back. Maybe it's their fault. Who's really responsible, eh?"
And that's *exactly* what Four did, you see. He had the Dalek's lives in his hands--literally, he was holding wires hooked up to the bomb--and he said, "But have I the right?" And he doesn't do it. He flinches. The creatures inside the pepperpots were sentient beings, and he didn't want to commit genocide. So, in a way, Nine should have been kicking Four's ass for putting his own ideals, and his peace of mind first.
For the way it explores themes of responsibility and suchlike, it is really quite an ingenious little fic.
(comment was too lengthy, so it's continued below...)
Re: a rec for you too, and general random late night thoughts
Date: 2005-06-13 10:19 pm (UTC)