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Just finished the dub of episode 34. Loved it. A few lines felt more or less emphasized than I remember, but overall it turned out great. Something I like about the FMA dub that I also liked about the Fruits Basket and Trigun dubs: all the actors seem to be acting rather than reading the lines. Anime dubs in general have improved in the last two years, with better translation, more creative script that better alludes to the original, and actual acting instead of reciting. I thought VAs of Edward, Greed, Izumi, and Greed's lackies were all really on their game here. Greed especially did well.

The only thing that confuses me: I thought there was a mention of Majahal in this episode? The guy Ed accidentally killed in episode 4. But I rewatched this episode in dub and sub and couldn't find any mention. Maybe it's later? I was *sure* there was a mention of it.

One major change in the dub of episode 33 that has to do with this, that I didn't care for: Greed needles Ed by suggesting Ed has never killed anyone before and thus doesn't have the guts to kill him.

In the Japanese, Ed completely side-steps the question without answering it: "What are you trying to say?"

In the English dub, he says "What's that got to do with it?", thereby giving the false impression that Edward thinks he hasn't killed anyone before.

EDIT: I loved these eps because it's just one more way in which Ed is so. damn. cool. (Though Greed is also, of course, extremely cool. Greed's like cool in a bottle. With leather pants.) And not shonenized. When Greed is doing the "I haven't lost yet!" determination thing, Ed's cool as a cucumber, saying "This is over, I've already won, now let's talk like mature adults and I won't have to kill you." I've said it a million times but I love that for how much this is an action/adventure series, the main character is so atypical for anime action heroes. He's an intellectual, for one thing. But he's also got mad ninja fighting skillz, but he does't seem them as L33T NINJA SKILZ, just as one more tool he has at his dispence. Sure he can be brash in a fight, but it's almost always played in moments of comic effect, not serious moments. For an anime teenage male action/adventure protagonist, Ed is remarkably cool-headed in most of his battles, and the moments where he's not are usually so emotionally charged that you can't expect a normal person not to overreact. But you feel like Ed spends his battles constantly assessing his opponent.

For all the hype Greed creates, once it's down to a real uninterrupted battle, where there are no hostages or distractions, it only takes Ed a few minutes to re-evaluate everything he's already learned about Greed from two meetings, and come up with the trick to beat him, beat a homunculous.

I wish all the protagonists in my favorite anime series could win by being the smartest cookie in the class instead of just the "bravest with the purest heart." Having a pure heart wouldn't save you if Edward Elric decided to come after you.

I don't squee about this show enough. Which is weird because I still squee a LOT about it.

EDIT #2: being the bravest and purest of heart would save Naruto, but only after Ed caught him and strung him up in a trap and learned by talking to him that he was pure of heart and thus should be let got after which Ed and Naruto would never really fight anyway, methinks.

Date: 2005-11-10 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buttercup0222.livejournal.com
Though Greed is also, of course, extremely cool. Greed's like cool in a bottle. With leather pants.

Oh that's great!

Ed is sometimes a bit too cocky for me, but you're right - it is a thinking show as much as it is action. Which is why I love it so.

Date: 2005-11-11 03:57 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Ed's cockiness is the type I might find annoying if I were to know him in real life, but as a character doesn't bother me at all, because he actually has reason to be as cocky as he is. And he's taken to task for his cockiness too-- arrogance is something Ed's constantly being punished and re-punished for.

Date: 2005-11-11 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuurei-san.livejournal.com
I LOVE GREED.One more time, for emphasis.I LOVE GREED.Why did he have to be the first homunculi to get knocked off?Couldn't they have killed that useless lump of flesh otherwise known as Gluttony?Why did they kill off the hot one?Damnit, he was my favorite one, and they killed him.They killed him dead.It's like all the characters I like are cursed or something(Maes...;__;). But you do have a point about voice acting.It really has improved alot over the years.I still prefer the Japanese version when all is said and done, but I am highly impressed by the dubs of FMA,Naruto(Kakashi's voice is perfectand for me his was the most important one,although Naruto and Sakura's voices need a little work),Samurai Champloo,and others.There are still alot of really awful ones out there too.*shudders, thinking of Bo-Bobobo-bobobo, and tragically,One Piece* I guess there is always hope for the future...

Date: 2005-11-11 04:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
In the end I prefere the Japanese version of FMA as well-- when I gave my brother copies and ordered him to watch it, I gave him the fansubs even though by then I had all of the first season in dubbed.

Naruto dub has so far been a large disappointment for me. Kakashi's voice was pretty good and so was Sasuke's, but Iruka's I hated, the Third's I hated, and Sakura and Naruto I wasn't really into after repeated watchings. And I really don't like the translations or the acting much. Except Kakashi. It is somehow fitting that in the mediocre dub he would still manage to be the coolest cat around.

Samurai Champloo is an alright dub, in my opinion. I love the translation/script writing, and I love Jin's voice. Fuu's alright, and Mugen... is barely passable. Not because he sounds bad or because the acting is bad, but because he was miscast. It should have gone to someone who could sound ruder, meaner, and more insane. Mugen is insane, but his dub VA does not make him sound insane. He just makes him obnoxious. The crazy-stupid-pirate-thug-gruffness isn't realy there as much as it should be. And I weep for episodes to come-- I know that in the few serious moments he's not going to sound like Mugen, he's going to sound like Spike.

Date: 2005-11-11 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuurei-san.livejournal.com
Kakashi is always cool.I think it is a law of the universe by now.The only person who even comes close to him(in my opinion anyway)is Greed. I didn't mind the Third's voice or Iruka's that much(although the didn't make me pass out in a rapture or anything),but Sakura's voice is so screechy, and Naruto's voice sounds screechy and weird. Hopefully as more episodes pass they'll get better.In my heart of hearts,howeer,I fear for Gaara. And the One Piece dub.*ugh*I really hated how they butchered it(although it wasn't the savage,brutal,murder that was Cardcraptors-purposefully misspelled,btw), but the voices,especially Luffy's were good.In fact how Luffy sounds is how Naruto should sound, except a little younger.And then Sanji showed up, and it hurt both my ears and my soul to watch.He sounded like a dumb thug, not a smooth ladies' man.Yeesh.

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