music & personal association
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timepiececlockThe artist/band "Bright Eyes" was ruined for me for over a year, especially the song "Lover I Don’t Have to Love", which I'll happily never listen to again. Or at least not for five or six years. Anyway, Bright Eyes was ruined for me because I was introduced to their songs by my first university dorm roommate. She was crazy. (Not the cute, fun kind of crazy where there are penguins and oddly put together sentences; the paranoid nasty kind of crazy. I was so put off by her craziness that even after she moved out and I got a new roommate (who was a lovely person and NOT crazy), I still went all the way till the end of the school year before refering to her as a "psycho bitch" to people who asked. Now that it's been over half a year since I lived in that dorm house, I feel quite happy refering to her as the psycho bitch without an LJ friends-lock, thankyouverymuch. My inbred courtesy for not speaking poorly about others behind their backs (to people who's business its not) has a statute of limitations.)
Anyway, she played this Bright Eyes CD, especially that song, ALL THE TIME. I've only once before had a song so negatively associated with a personal experience that I couldn't stand to hear it (the song "Crash Into Me" by Dave Mathews Band, for a mortifyingly embarassing moment with an older crush), and that lasted about three years. Then, like nothing, one day my negative association with the song was just gone. *POOF!* No more embarassment, it just stopped. Now I love "Crash Into Me."
I still have no desire to hear "Lover I Don’t Have to Love" (which I doubt I'd like anyway even if not for her because it had the sound of emo indie pretentious acoustic stuff that doesn't come off as "raw", just as something with no effort put into it), but I have recently thought about hearing other Bright Eyes songs, seeing if I like them. I think I've heard a few on the radio this year with more interesting instrumentals, but I don't normally listen to the radio so I don't remember much.
What are your favorite Bright Eyes songs? Do you like them/him at all?
Anyway, she played this Bright Eyes CD, especially that song, ALL THE TIME. I've only once before had a song so negatively associated with a personal experience that I couldn't stand to hear it (the song "Crash Into Me" by Dave Mathews Band, for a mortifyingly embarassing moment with an older crush), and that lasted about three years. Then, like nothing, one day my negative association with the song was just gone. *POOF!* No more embarassment, it just stopped. Now I love "Crash Into Me."
I still have no desire to hear "Lover I Don’t Have to Love" (which I doubt I'd like anyway even if not for her because it had the sound of emo indie pretentious acoustic stuff that doesn't come off as "raw", just as something with no effort put into it), but I have recently thought about hearing other Bright Eyes songs, seeing if I like them. I think I've heard a few on the radio this year with more interesting instrumentals, but I don't normally listen to the radio so I don't remember much.
What are your favorite Bright Eyes songs? Do you like them/him at all?
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Date: 2006-02-19 07:06 am (UTC)The sun came up with no conclusions
Flowers sleepin in their beds
The city cemetary's hummin
I'm wide awake its morning
I have my drugs I have my woman
they keep away my lonliness
My parents, they have their religions
they sleep in seperate houses
I read the body count out of the paper
and now its written all over my face
No one ever plans to sleep out in the gutter
Sometimes thats just the most comfortable place
So I'm drinkin, breathin, writin, singin
Every day I'm on the clock
My mind races with all my longings
but can't keep up with what I got
I hope I dont sound too ungratefull
well, history gave modern man
a telephone to talk to strangers
a machine gun and a camera lense
So when you're asked to fight a war thats over nothing
It's best to join the side thats gonna win
No one's sure how all of this got started
But we're gonna make em God damn certain how its gonna end
I' could have been a famous singer
if I had some one else's voice
But failure's always sounded better
Let's fuck it up boys, make some noise!
BTW, check out my latest post. Music for you there.
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Date: 2006-02-19 07:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-19 07:39 am (UTC)My music thoughts tonight were prompted by
Oh, I downloaded the House season 1 soundtrack, though I haven't listened to it yet.
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Date: 2006-02-19 07:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-19 08:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-19 08:22 am (UTC)"Strangers on a train" is really sexy. Was it you that recced it to me a few months ago? It's still on my iPod.
I haven't heard any remixes of Garbage (I own Version 2.0 cd and some random downloaded tracks) but I wouldn't be surprised-- they always sound really sexy and breathy anyway, before remixes. That one song with the line "The trick is to keep breathing" repeated over and over... and of course #1 Crush sounds like she's having sex with the microphone.
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Date: 2006-02-19 08:33 am (UTC)If you want any of the other Garbage records, just ask. Personally, I consider their self-titled to be their best work. The CD of remixes I have ... there's a Massive Attack remix of "Milk" ... holy shit, that's pure sex. The most popular version of "#1 Crush" (feat. on the Romeo & Juliet soundtrack) is a remix. The original isn't near as sexual sounding as that. I'll see if I can't find that disc and upload it tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
One of the sexiest songs I have ever heard has to be "wings of steel" by Collide. I was using that as a "soundtrack" when I was writing smut a few months ago. It worked. Extremely well.
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Date: 2006-02-19 08:42 am (UTC)I forgot-- I also have the newest Garbage CD from you. :) Though those are the only two I have, so... yeah! That would be swell. If you feel like it.
I have a version of "Milk" that I think is the original, because it sounds like just Garbage, but it's been a while since I listened to it. I'm pretty sure it's not Massive Attack.
I really like Version 2.0--- "Medication" creeps me out and makes me sad, and "Push It" is one of the best songs to play at extreme volume levels. There's some others on there that I really like too.
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Date: 2006-02-19 08:55 am (UTC)I can get you the first and third records. I intensely disliked Beautiful Garbage, but who knows. You might like it a lot.
Someone should rec "Sleep Together" from 2.0 as a sexy song. Cuz it is. Totally. My favorite songs offa that one are "Temptation Waits" and "I Think I'm Paranoid". The Crystal Method did a kick-ass remix of the latter.
Why do I always feel like a dork when I go on about this stuff? ::headdesk::
Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 09:12 am (UTC)"Milk (Massive Attack Remix)": s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZQNYFYXW3DV40SVMF642TWBXK
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 09:32 am (UTC)"Crushingly Closer": s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2U3DM8VZ5DSZP14ACKXALMDKSZ
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 11:00 am (UTC)I don't have time to listen to this mashup tonight, but it's now on my iPod for tomorrow's consumption! Mash-ups are touch and go for me. Most of them I only listen to a few times until the novelty wears off, but occasionally one works really well and I love it.
I'm curious about "Wings of Steel" and "Let It Go", if the offer still stands!
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 06:09 am (UTC)"Let It Go" - The Clarks: s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2RM30SJI5GWM11H0GL5NDG3ZP0
"Ode to Joy" - Ludwig von Beethoven: s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M9CF3FDHL4583IPSQQ59H9DVB
(The "Ode to Joy" is 23 minutes long. It's from the full 9th which I have on CD. So, if it takes a while to DL, don't be alarmed.)
A few more recommendations, that I believe you'd like.
"white rabbit" - Collide: s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2C2G06STW2IRZ1BDG4JCHRP8GJ
Interesting cover of Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit".
"Life in Mono" - Mono: s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IQB1FYU27CHA29KOLURYJ0X7A
One hit wonder. Was featured in the Ethan Hawke, Gwenyth Paltrow remake of Great Expectations in ... I want to say '97? Beautiful voice, beautiful music.
"She Will Have Her Way" - Neil Finn: s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SJPBNZTZEGNB1JD7LCZ7ITOD1
I heard this in an episode of the criminally short-lived series Sports Night. I used to have more music by NF, but it went the way of a lot of music of mine. Into the abyss. :( Very easy-listening, and since I know you listen to similar sounding artists, you'd dig it. Great track all around.
"In The Name of the Father" - Bono, Gavin Friday: s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QH3FKIE24RFK2ZMUGETQE3SCE
Prefaced, of course, the fantastic 1993 Daniel Day-Lewis film of the same name. I love the mixture of Irish music and more contemporary stuff. If you listen to the lyrics, they tell the story the movie was about.
"Full Moon, Empty Heart" - Belly: s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EJX3JIZWMYB40IVIB46JLJ7QF
Heard this song in an early episode of Homicide: Life on the Street. It's so freaking sad. I've seen many people debate the meaning of the lyrics, but I'm pretty convinced it's a woman singing about the loss of a child and how it has affected her.
Oh, and I wanted to ask - were you interested in getting ahold of the new Placebo?
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 06:12 am (UTC)Thanks particularly for the full version of Ode To Joy; I like complete songs over abridged versions, always.
I have the Placebo greatest hits CD, is that the one you mean? I got it last year, so it's not really new... "Twenty Years" is sooooooo my Gungrave song.
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 06:16 am (UTC)The Placebo? Oh, no. It's not the Greatest Hits. It's the upcoming, hasn't-been-titled-yet album. I obtained it from a super sekrit source.
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 06:21 am (UTC)You've got my curiosity up.
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 06:30 am (UTC)I'm wondering when the movie is going to take place? Within the anime, like Bebop? Or will it be post-series? Our SSS hasn't found out anything, has she?
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 06:46 am (UTC)Your wacky logic is not wacky at all. Just send it to enemygateisdown@gmail.com .
I'm wondering when the movie is going to take place? Within the anime, like Bebop? Or will it be post-series? Our SSS hasn't found out anything, has she?
I've got no idea, and I've been neglecting my flist lately so it's possible I might have missed the news if she had found out anything.
I kind of want it to be mid-series, a self-contained storyline. 1, because I am greedy and want more Wolfwood. 2, I really like the complete open-endedness of the anime's ending. We have no idea what's going to happen from here on out, but that's perfect because that's what Vash's life is at that moment. He's going to make his own destiny now, no longer driven by guilt over Rem or fear/responsibility from Knives. He's got his brother and he's got his blank ticket to the future and who knows what may come to pass? I loved the symmetry of that ending and would hate to lose it.
I also worry that if it was post-series, it might be rushed, like trying to make an entire sequel series worth of plots fit into a single movie. In contrast, a mid-series movie would allow for a better written and more focused plot, with more attention to characters and less running from fight to fight.
Or it could do the Escaflowne thing-- be a condensed remake of the series. Who knows how that would turn out.
On the other hand... a post-series movie WOULD be cool because it means finding out what happens next. Do Vash and Meryl ever get together? Do Meryl and Milly break up? What does Vash do with Knives? With a single movie entire years worth of post-series fanfiction would be jossed.
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-20 07:02 am (UTC)I'd love to see them keep with the anime canon, honestly. Trigun's anime was rather strong in representing Nightow's ideas and plans for characters. He's just taking his freakin' time about it, but the great thing about that is everything and everyone is fleshed out. I never completely understood what was going on in Trigun's anime until I started with the manga. I found a place online with Maximum scans, which I'm so glad, because he's up to Volume 11 and I'm dyin' to know what he's doing now.
As for where in the anime, it'd be interesting to cover what everyone was doing in that two year time gap. However, the downside of that is ... the four "main" characters wouldn't interact.
Post-series, I'm with you. I'm not that hot on the idea, but I AM curious as to what happened to everybody. You know Nightow will be closely invovled with any movie and I bet he'll drop in some good bits. Vash and Knives aren't immortal, and I wonder if a post-series movie would reveal that? Then again, I don't want to watch a damn movie and have them die at the end. That would suck. Blah.
More Garbage - the GOOD Garbage. :D
Date: 2006-02-20 07:35 am (UTC)Beautiful Garbage: s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2S5VJVHPJBZ0J2D9RUYILGGP5U
Re: Garbage Songs.
Date: 2006-02-22 12:37 pm (UTC)"Milk" - cool! And you know what, I just found out the House theme song is by Massive Attack. That's so cool. I just downloading the OST so I have that song now, and I think I have three others on my comp I haven't heard yet.
"Crushingly Closer" - hm... the #1 Crush track really dominates this mix. I like it.
"Road To Joy" - I'm *liking* it. I'm starting to think that like you it might be the only Bright Eyes song I do end up liking. But the beat really works... probably because it's so ingrained and familiar to my long-term memory. I also like "the sun came up with no conclusion" and "telephone to talk to strangers, machine gun and a camera lense." The lyrics are heavy-handed to a degree, almost enough to turn me off, except it *works* with the music. The fact that it's derrived from "Ode to Joy" gives it a lot of room to be heavy and get away with it enjoyably.
"Stars" - Huh.... I like the middle, don't really care for the beginning. I like the lyrics and the basic tune, but it kinda feels like it's all over the place, musically. Hm. I'll have to listen a few more times before I make up my mind. But it looks like leaning toward "yay!"
"Stay" - Shakespeare's Sister: - I like it, though I wasn't sure where it was going at first. The longer I listened, the more I liked.
"Mouth" - I remember this song! I didn't recognize it at all under I started it, then the words all came back. I remember thinking it was annoying back in the day... but listening to it on my iPod yesterday, I really liked it. Maybe I just appreciate it more being older.
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Date: 2006-02-23 03:05 am (UTC)For the first half of season one, it was driving me nuts. I knew that song, but couldn't figure out from where. I have the Mezzanine album by MA, yet I don't listen to it much. Finally, it clicked.
Glad you liked everything to some degree. I'm really odd about what styles of music I like. Such as "Stars". It took me a couple of listens to like it as much as I do. Same with "Stay". I absolutely hated that song when it first came out, but everybody was listening to it, so I was subjected to it. After I saw the video for it - which was pretty weird, but helped bring some sense into the song - I loved it.
In case you don't get to see it - Natacha Atlas music for you.
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Date: 2006-02-19 09:23 am (UTC)No! I feel like a dork when I go on and on about something I love. Sometimes it's music. Sometimes it's anime or a tv show. But I'll spend pages gushing down to inane detail about what it is and why I like it and what I think about its quality and why everyone else should or shouldn't like it.
And I love to read/hear other people do the same. You're always welcome to gush to me about the things you love, and whether you want to hear it or not I'll probably do the same.
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Date: 2006-02-19 07:46 am (UTC)These are all older - early 90s.
"Stars" - Hum: s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05N9AYKUWUVQN3IJB2XCO1G6AT
"Stars" was a song that an oooold friend of mine - when I still used Prodigy as my ISP - rec'd to me. I'd never heard of Hum, either, but I managed to find the CD with this song on it cheaply about three months after he rec'd it. They're similar to Low (who did "Cracker") and The Afghan Whigs.
"Stay" - Shakespeare's Sister: s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HO5S28G6LE2V36J1TB5T3B3EY
This song was HUGE - I mean HUGE - when I was in a sophomore in high school. SS is goth-ish (real Goth), so if you're familiar with Siouxsie, The Creatures, etc., then that's what they're similar to.
"Mouth" - Merrill Bainbridge: s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=16XTO3RGAJLAL36TUIPE5M7APA
One hit wonder stuff, like SS. Song was big about ten years ago. Catchy tune. MB is in the same vein as Jewel, Sophie B. Hawkins and Meredith Brooks.
There was a FIFTH song I thought you might like - "Let It Go" by the Clarks - but I figured this was enough for now.
Some of "Let It Go"'s lyrics:
"I keep thinking maybe time will mend this broken down
I keep thinking I'm not crazy
I keep thinking maybe time will heal 'cause drugs don't help
I'll stop singing songs about my:
Can anyone tell me why the things that are meant to stay they turn and go
Can anyone tell me why we lust after the things we'll never know
I'll just have to let it go"
Re: songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 09:56 am (UTC)Totally nabbing this stuff.
Re: songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 10:18 am (UTC)Re: songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 10:24 am (UTC)Re: songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 10:53 am (UTC)Re: songs.
Date: 2006-02-19 11:02 am (UTC)Well, now I know why.
You don't, by any chance, have "Ode to Joy"? I need a differential diagnosis. ;)
((thanks for all these recs, again))
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Date: 2006-02-19 08:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-19 03:21 pm (UTC)I sort of prefer the first Commander Venus disc to any of the Bright Eyes I've heard. It was a bit less emo, a bit more punk. The second Commander Venus disc didn't impress me as much as the first, even. I like Desperacidos better than his Bright Eyes stuff now.
I saw him play as Bright Eyes only once. It was an intimate affair in the bar a few blocks away. He shunned the stage to sit with the audience. My guest & I sat a few feet away and were absolutely bored to tears as Conor & Co. proceeded to mope to a musical accompaniment for the next hour. I ended up having to apologize the the person I brought with me. "He was more interesting when he was 15. Now he's just depressing."
Long story short - there are 2 Bright Eyes songs that I absolutely love:
A Perfect Sonnet
and
The Calendar Hung Itself
both two excellent break-up songs. That I highly recommend. I have 3 or 4 Bright Eyes albums and my favorite would be Fevers and Mirrors.
Honestly though, I would recommend seeking out his early stuff, before his voice changed, if you're looking for raw, pre-cocaine emotion.
Or listen to Cursive. In a choice between the two I'd choose Cursive hands down.
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Date: 2006-02-19 06:07 pm (UTC)