FMA dub episode 50

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Episode 50 discussion, page 10: the exact page on the AS boards where people blow their tops. Aahhh, I remember that viewing experience. There was screaming and freaking out galore.

Fantastic performance with the dub, just like the last few episodes. My only sadness is that Ed's line "Don't fuck with me!" was changed to something a little more tv-safe. Will it be on the DVD, one hopes?

To my great pleasure, they didn't cut out either of the two really bloody scenes in this episode, the one with Wrath and the one at the end. I'd been wondering how they were going to handle it considering you simply CAN'T edit those scenes out and expect the episode's events to make sense, and AS had edited things weaker than that before. I guess by the time they got this far they just threw their hands in the air and said "Aw, screw it! This show's too gorey to fix. We'll just have to play it as is."

Ooh, and a very amusing/traumatic link: Click here only if you've seen episode 50 and need to scream. This is the spoiler of all spoilers. Well, the second-best spoiler of all spoilers cause nothing tops alternate universe zepplins.

EDIT: This is either the best or worst FMA shirt I've ever seen.


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geglash: Okay, okay, here's my theory: Ed isn't dead. Can't possibly be. No way in hell. The show will think up some slippery sh*t to get him out of it................

........and everyone will live happily ever after (except f*cking Envy, he'll drown in a pool of lava) and eat lollipops and snuggle puppies and la la la la la.....*curls into fetal position*.............la la la la la la la la la la la.........
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"pool of lava" is so nicely original and graphic.


WARNING! Spoilers for episode 51/finale in the comments below!

Comments

[rashaka.livejournal.com]

By the way, how does it feel to know your show lies to you? You can't trust canon because CANON LIES.

Tucker isn't really dead. Juliet Douglas didn't start the Ishbalan war. The Philosopher's Stone isn't a rock, it's carried inside a person. Dante isn't really dead. Equivalent exchange is a lie!

[buttercup0222.livejournal.com]

I will never believe in anything ever again!!

I'm actually feeling a bit sad now that it's over. It's left me feeling somewhat moody, which is a sign that something has really affected me on an emotional level, which is an odd thing to say for a tv show, but it was so damn good, and funny, and intellectual, and heartbreaking.

I've also watched the movie. I have to say - I was a bit disappointed with it. Not very good plot development, IMHO, and the motives for some character actions just didn't ring true for me. I'll make a more detailed LJ post later this week once I've had a chance to collect my thoughts and watch it again. I did watch it extremely late last night, so I might've not been in the best state of mind.

btw, you mentioned (I *think* it was you) a Riza/Roy fic called Games without Frontiers (?). I tried looking on ff.net and mediaminer and came up empty. Did I get the title wrong, or is it someplace else?

[rashaka.livejournal.com]

It's on LJ, posted at royai. I think it might have finished now, but if you post there and ask for a link, people will give it to you.

The movie was a mixed bag for me too. I loved almost everything about it as far as the European characters went (Ed included), and felt it was stretched too thin for the Amestris characters. Roy especially left me with a bit "Que?" over my head (see this discussion), but my extreme love for the way Ed and Alphonse were handled sort of counteracts any disatisfaction there. And the final scene was my Favoritest Thing Ever: Ed and Al driving off into the sunsetmorning with the Ishbalansgypsies. I couldn't have imagined a more perfect last scene for those two.

You probably did yourself a disservice by watching it so closely after the anime, to be honest. It'll be hard to separate the movie from the tv series.

[buttercup0222.livejournal.com]

You probably did yourself a disservice by watching it so closely after the anime, to be honest. It'll be hard to separate the movie from the tv series.

I'm not sure I would say that. After all, it is supposed to be part of the same storyline. My problem is that I can't seem to associate the movie with the series very much at all. I wasn't awed, brainfucked, or moved in the same way the series did me. Part of it is because there's only so much you're able to do in an hour and 45 minutes. The rest...I just don't know.

And again, there's the sleepyness :)

[rashaka.livejournal.com]

My problem is that I can't seem to associate the movie with the series very much at all.

That's ultimately what I mean, in a way. For me, the FMA movie sub came out nearly a year after the series ended. I'd sat on that ending of Ed and Al reaching toward the sky for a year. For me, the series was finished. It was done. The movie, which we didn't even know would take place after the series (could have been mid-series like Cowboy Bebop), was something that would be cool, but was not (for me) necessary to fullfilling the destiny of the characters. I already had the resolution I wanted, and could happily imagine that yeah, Ed and Al would find each other some day. I didn't need to know exactly how, because I trusted that it was inevitable.

When the movie came out, it was a new and separate creature for me. Yeah, I had spent a year building up expectations, but I also had all those months to distance myself from the end of the series. The movie looked different and felt different (it wasn't really brain-breaking in plot, that's true, but FMA's brain-breakyness relied on its episodic format, which the movie didn't have time to build up again), even though many parts of it felt essentially familiar. Still, most of the movie takes place in Germany, and I gave up trying to think of the Alter!characters as the originals within the first few minutes of the film. They're not the same people (except possibly Gracia), and we can't look at them the same.

...ack! must go. I have more to add later.

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[rashaka.livejournal.com]

For me the characters of the movie, particularly Edward and Alphonse were what the movie was about, more than resolution of the alchemy/gate stuff. The movie spent a lot of attention on Edward's mindset and the Ed/Al relationship, and I was very pleased with what they did there. They didn't put enough focus on the other characters and certain plot points were weaker than what we saw in the series, but overall I was satisfied plot-wise, and character-wise I was thrilled, because so much attention was given to Ed and Al. Again, the stuff with Roy and his group was the weakest part, but I sort of resolved to ignore it, because mentally editing it into post-series canon is kind of weird and difficult.

Anyway, what I mean is, I didn't expect the movie to be episode 52. A lot of people expect that, but I never liked that analogy. If they'd wanted it to be episode 52, they'd have made a 52nd episode. The movie and the series ARE different, and I look at them differently.