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It really bugs me that the only female in this cast is an insane Bratz doll come to life. Where are all the women? This whole show is so... male. I usually don't pay attention, but it's incredibly obvious here. Everything about this is masculine, from the simple things like an all-male cast or the lone female as a negative stereotype, to the subtler things, like the way L and Kira think, and the way the author explains things. I don't believe that certain things are strictly masculine or feminine, but the show certainly fits the comon stereotypes of those labels. This show may be daring in its anti-protagonist and anti-antagonist choices and in its casual treatment of murder, but it's not nearly as subvertive as it could be. It's boys playing a boy game against boys, where the only girl gets used as a tool for the male characters' plot advancement.

I know that the cast is cops+Kira and the majority of cops are men, but female police officers do exist and they could do with having a few on this task force. If nothing else, at least to provide a different perspective in analysis. It seems a very basic distinction to make, but it's an important one if you want to have a full view of any situation. They should find themselves a female mathematician or logician, and a female psychologist too. For that matter, this whole team should have more intellectual fields represented than just criminal justice aherents.

I have another thought, too: if L were really as smart as he supposedly is, he'd have an entirely separate investigation team acting and reporting to him, completely unconnected to the police task force. He's too vulnerable and the information/scope too limited with just these people. Plus, he looks like the type to have a control group, like in any social experiment. In some ways he's using Light as a control when it comes to comparing the task force's theories, but that's a double-edged sword considering how suspect he is.

Nobody can build a mega sky-scraper in a few months. Pipe dream, and not a very good one. I hope we're supposed to believe that he bought and refitted it, not built it from the ground up. Even when you're rushing materials and financed by the best, shit like that takes 2 or more years to finish from cement slab to indoor networked security system.

Date: 2008-03-08 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flamingly-fey.livejournal.com
Oh my god. Thank you. Thank you. Honestly, the lack of female characters beyond Notebook Cannon Fodder FBI Woman from the earliest chapters and "an insane Bratz doll come to life" bothered me too... but you're the first person I've ever seen speak up about it.

To my shame, I haven't, mostly because the anime club I'm in is definitely more of a boys' club than it ought to be; while I dearly love some of the guys there, I don't think their grasp on the realities of feminism is such that I can bring stuff like this up without being laughed out of the room. Also, with a few notable exceptions, the girls there aren't the type to realize things like what you've pointed out here (can you say shallow fangirls? who generally think feminism is equivalent to misandry?)... but are the type to flip out at me for bringing things like that up. (It's "just an anime", after all, and if I think it's being sexist I "don't understand the different cultural standards".)

Wow, teal deer is teeeeeal....

I thought in the comic the skyscraper was just a bought and refitted hotel, but I could be wrong. It's been almost a year since I read any of it.

forgot to answer

Date: 2008-03-26 07:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
Was browsing some older comments and realized I never replied to this one.

To my shame, I haven't, mostly because the anime club I'm in is definitely more of a boys' club than it ought to be; while I dearly love some of the guys there, I don't think their grasp on the realities of feminism is such that I can bring stuff like this up without being laughed out of the room. Also, with a few notable exceptions, the girls there aren't the type to realize things like what you've pointed out here (can you say shallow fangirls? who generally think feminism is equivalent to misandry?)... but are the type to flip out at me for bringing things like that up. (It's "just an anime", after all, and if I think it's being sexist I "don't understand the different cultural standards".)

Ironically, "not understanding" cultural standards has never prevented anyone from criticizing them, as far as I know. :D

It sucks that you feel that way, but I understand where you're coming from. I was briefly in an anime club, but we never talked hardly at all; we just watched stuff. I would love to belong to a club that had discussions, even if they were patriarchal. I actually had that same conflict with the group I was with when I saw 300. People asked me my opinions and I said "pretty artwork, but..." and eventually when pressed I said how it's incredibly offensive and sexist but most of the boys present weren't interested in that argument.

[To my sheepishness, I don't know what "mysandry" means]

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