This is the most offensive, replusive, dehumanizing, mysoginistic, depraved, ugly thing I've seen in months. I want someone to stand up and say "This shit should be illegal."
Dosn't the protection of human dignity extend to someone who choses to do something which others find distasteful? IF the girls in this horrible business are consenting of there own free will to do this, then surely forbiding it to "protect" there dignity and the dingity of womankind (which they are certainly bringing nto question by allowing themselves to be used this demenaing way!) is just enforcing a set of morals upon them that they might not ascribe too? If you regulate human behaviour between consenting adults who chose to perfrom an activity of there own free will, surely you actually deman human dignity by saying some people can not make responsible choices for themselves? What about sadomaschoist clubs for example? The same moral and ethical judgements that would close this distastful business down, would close them down. Don't those people have a right of sexual expression? isn't that part of human dignity?
That's a point, but what two people do in the bedroom is not the same situation as was described in the article. For one thing, the getting hit by paintballs with no protective covering is unsafe, whereas being tied to a bedpost is typically not (unless you're left ther for a week by a murderer, which is not a normal occurence.)
Also, sex games are not a business in and of themselves. It's an encounter between two consenting adults. If there's money then it's prostitution, but the one does not equal the other.
I only bring it up because in the Uk, Police have actually arrested sado-masochists and prosecuted them regardless of each partners consent.
Certianly the idea that money chages hands makes this activity even more morally repugnant, but forgive me, I am not a 100% if I could accept the government has enought moral authority to ban it.
I only bring it up because in the Uk, Police have actually arrested sado-masochists and prosecuted them regardless of each partners consent.
Really? Huh. I didn't know that.
Ban it? I don't think anything that stringent would need to or even could happen. There's a lot of easier ways than passing a _law_ to get something stopped. For example, I've got a list of people I'm currently looking up contact information for:
Nevada State Licensing Board Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce The L.V. Mayor The sponsoring business itself
If this truly is unsafe for the women being hunted, you could complain about that, and that could shut it down. Also, if enough people complain about it in general, that will get the attention of whichever hotel/business is paying for it.
Thats true enough. Though I do worry that the world is full of sicko's and people driven to desperation by economic circumstances, which is not a good combination for mankind.
Seriously though good luck with the campaign. If you need any help (though what I could do I don't know just ask).
I'm just writing letters. That's all I really can do in my position. But I write a lot of letters for things like this anyway. I write more to complain than I do to celebrate (like fanmail.)
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Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 04:01 am (UTC)IF the girls in this horrible business are consenting of there own free will to do this, then surely forbiding it to "protect" there dignity and the dingity of womankind (which they are certainly bringing nto question by allowing themselves to be used this demenaing way!) is just enforcing a set of morals upon them that they might not ascribe too?
If you regulate human behaviour between consenting adults who chose to perfrom an activity of there own free will, surely you actually deman human dignity by saying some people can not make responsible choices for themselves? What about sadomaschoist clubs for example? The same moral and ethical judgements that would close this distastful business down, would close them down. Don't those people have a right of sexual expression? isn't that part of human dignity?
Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 12:42 pm (UTC)Also, sex games are not a business in and of themselves. It's an encounter between two consenting adults. If there's money then it's prostitution, but the one does not equal the other.
Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 12:51 pm (UTC)I only bring it up because in the Uk, Police have actually arrested sado-masochists and prosecuted them regardless of each partners consent.
Certianly the idea that money chages hands makes this activity even more morally repugnant, but forgive me, I am not a 100% if I could accept the government has enought moral authority to ban it.
Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 12:58 pm (UTC)Really? Huh. I didn't know that.
Ban it? I don't think anything that stringent would need to or even could happen. There's a lot of easier ways than passing a _law_ to get something stopped. For example, I've got a list of people I'm currently looking up contact information for:
Nevada State Licensing Board
Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce
The L.V. Mayor
The sponsoring business itself
If this truly is unsafe for the women being hunted, you could complain about that, and that could shut it down. Also, if enough people complain about it in general, that will get the attention of whichever hotel/business is paying for it.
Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 01:08 pm (UTC)Thats true enough. Though I do worry that the world is full of sicko's and people driven to desperation by economic circumstances, which is not a good combination for mankind.
Seriously though good luck with the campaign. If you need any help (though what I could do I don't know just ask).
Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 01:15 pm (UTC)Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 01:17 pm (UTC)If you found the sponsoring business couldn't you organise a boycott (assuming they where a national business)?
Re: Just curious..
Date: 2003-07-13 10:29 pm (UTC)