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You scored as atheism. You are... an atheist, though you probably already knew this. Also, you probably have several people praying daily for your soul. Instead of simply being "nonreligious," atheists strongly believe in the lack of existence of a higher being, or God. </td> atheism 75% Buddhism 71% Satanism 67% Paganism 58% Judaism 54% agnosticism 54% Islam 29% Hinduism 13% Christianity 0% Which religion is the right one for you? (new version) created with QuizFarm.com

I think it's kind of funny that I got 0% on Christianity.

So... 75% atheism. Yeah, I already knew that. And I've had people personally tell me they are praying for my soul. Never goes over well, that statement. It's hard to be gracious about it because I know they're not praying for my health, happiness, love, or safety, like someone who cares about me would (which I would take as a sign of their caring and thus appreciate in the spirit that it's given)... they're praying for me to convert. Oh, that drives me nuts.


Also... 71% Buddhist. That makes sense. I've been interested in looking into Buddhism lately. I'd like to up my mental discipline, but I don't believe in swearing off attachments to things in life. I love life an all the things therein, like chocolate and art and other people. I couldn't possibly achieve enlightenment because I could never foresake attachement. I'd probably never be a Tyler Durden space monkey for the same reason. I love my duvet comforter.

Comments

[mandy138.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't say praying for the soul is praying for conversion. -_- It's more like the god having mercy on your 'sin'. Hate to tell ya, though, most moral!athiests identify with movements like Buddhism/Hinduism for the morality and compassionate views. The views held in movements like these are considered values that every decent human being has and lives by; universal truths.

I'm sorry for the use of 'movement', but I can't think of a term that really does them justice. Religion doesn't fit and 'views' might be closest, but it's also 2:30 AM right now. >.<

But even Buddhism has its structure of dieties in those who have obtained enlightenment, the boddhitsiva (saints, really) guiding those through their incarnations until enlightenment, judged by the Buddha (gods) who have already come to be.

[rashaka.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't say praying for the soul is praying for conversion. -_- It's more like the god having mercy on your 'sin'.

You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to...

Hate to tell ya, though, most moral!athiests identify with movements like Buddhism/Hinduism for the morality and compassionate views. The views held in movements like these are considered values that every decent human being has and lives by; universal truths.

I agree, in fact I think a lot of people believe in the religions they do because the values that religions teach tend to be the same universal truths that you describe. Though I'm curious about why you're using the phrase "hate to tell ya".

moral!athiests

As opposed to...immoral!athiests? You do mean that in the same way that you'd say moral!Christians v. immoral!Christians, or moral!Muslims v. immoral!Muslims, right? Cause last time I checked, moral and immoral people come in every religion/lack thereof.

[mandy138.livejournal.com]

By moral!athiests I meant those that held some morales, obviously. =P There are people out there that don't believe in any one commanding god and don't give a crap about others. I meant to distinguish from those. =)

[rashaka.livejournal.com]

...eeh, yeah. See, that was my complaint. There are Christians and Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Sihks and Buddhists and Pagans and people of every other religion who DO believe in God[s] and STILL don't give a crap about others. But never in your comment did you feel the need to "distinguish" those. You just assumed. A hint: belief in God[s] has nothing to do with caring about your fellow human beings.

You say "By moral!athiests I meant those that held some morales, obviously." Without knowing someone's religion before hand, do you normally assume that people have some value set, unless they demonstrate to you otherwise theough their behavior? Most people do, because most people like to think the best of others unless proved otherwise, if we didn't do that we'd never get along with each other.

Your comments might be better received if you assumed in the future that athiests are moral people in the first place, and not the other way around.

And I'd appreciate it in the future if you didn't comment on my journal. I'm sure you'd no more like me going to your journal and calling you stupid for believing god exists than I like you appearing on mine and implying that athiests are immoral, except for the select "some" that have values despite their "obvious" lack of religion. I find that assumption offensive in general, and particularly rude given that you read that I was an atheist before you commented.

[mandy138.livejournal.com]

Hey, hey, hey. Calm down for a minute, ok? I didn't mean anything offensive at all and I think you're taking this way too personally. =| I never called you stupid or even tried to in some maybe-hopefully-shceming like way.

Your comments might be better received if you assumed in the future that athiests are moral people in the first place, and not the other way around.

This says that you assume that's what I was thinking or do think. =/ I really do believe you're reading way too into this. I'm not a philosopher and can't keep up with how you're tearing things from my comments that I neither implied nor intended.

See, that was my complaint. There are Christians and Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Sihks and Buddhists and Pagans and people of every other religion who DO believe in God[s] and STILL don't give a crap about others. But never in your comment did you feel the need to "distinguish" those. You just assumed.

I thought that was understood, being as we were both equally open about talking on this. I believe the assumption is not on my end. And accusing me of never getting past 'athiest' before commenting is the rude slight against me (I'm guessing it came from me saying I was Christian; no doubt you have something else in mind that what I do about that); you couldn't possible know that and are just assuming yourself. But being as this is indeed your journal that is definately your right towards a stranger. I just thought a conversation could be had here as it was an intellectual post.

But I will no longer try to converse with you then. But you really shouldn't be looking for an insult in everything you read. I, for one, never intended that (I'll say it again) and I'm sorry you somehow perceived that. I'm willing to discuss this in hopes of admentment through email if you would so have it. I will not post it here, but it can be found in my info.

Goodbye, then.
Mandy

[mandy138.livejournal.com]

Though I'm curious about why you're using the phrase "hate to tell ya".

Oh, it just sounded like you had some great big revelation to me. ^^;; Sorry, I'm reeeeeally tired. 3:15 AM now. T_T

As opposed to...immoral!athiests? You do mean that in the same way that you'd say moral!Christians v. immoral!Christians, or moral!Muslims v. immoral!Muslims, right? Cause last time I checked, moral and immoral people come in every religion/lack thereof.

All true, but usually immoral!thiests pray and believe God will forgive them no matter what, so they continue on in their selfish ways. Unfortunately, they use it as an excuse to do what they want instead of what is right and abiding by the universal truths.

You say to-ma-to, I say to-mah-to...
I just think you take that too personally, is all. I'm a Christian and praying for something means to invoke/plead for mercy, whatever its applications, not conversion. ^^;